Silent Messengers

[Hounddog]

it appears that to a considerable extent it is getting a bad rap that many times does not apply to the gluten itself...........I think that the gluten problem is often overstated as the catch all for health problems just like so many children are labeled ADHD for any behavior problem.

I wouldn't be a bit surprised if to a very large extent this is the case.

Interesting. The quote from ColporteurK seems to have been edited out after the quote was made!
In the situations I wrote about, I would say that I have seen at least one person probably die after being given glutamine which can derived from gluten. The fact that people have been eating wheat for thousands of years may be true, but I believe people are being faced with many new illnesses that humans never used to have to deal with, including gluten issues.

[ColporteurK]

Tammy was just quoting that which struck her as most important at the time. That is done all the time.  My point is that gluten is getting the rap for other issues that are often not even being addressed. There are people that claim that they cannot eat fruit. However, fruit is not the problem. People are eating animal protein by the truck load and we still hear that people may not be getting enough protein. Of course they mean, animal protein. Animal protein is getting a green light while gluten is considered something a kin to poison. For the one person you say that might have died from glutamine derived from gluten, thousands and millions die from cancer, heart disease, alzhiemers, and strokes because of the consumption of dead flesh, white sugar and dairy products etc..

[Tammy]

I believe people are being faced with many new illnesses that humans never used to have to deal with

And I'm sure that's also true.

[newbie]

I believe people are being faced with many new illnesses that humans never used to have to deal with

And I'm sure that's also true.

yeah there's a new bug out there too... called the kissing bug... bites you and puts in a parasite into your system... looks like a cross between a box elder but and a roach

[newbie]

Tammy was just quoting that which struck her as most important at the time. That is done all the time.  My point is that gluten is getting the rap for other issues that are often not even being addressed. There are people that claim that they cannot eat fruit. However, fruit is not the problem. People are eating animal protein by the truck load and we still hear that people may not be getting enough protein. Of course they mean, animal protein. Animal protein is getting a green light while gluten is considered something a kin to poison. For the one person you say that might have died from glutamine derived from gluten, thousands and millions die from cancer, heart disease, alzhiemers, and strokes because of the consumption of dead flesh, white sugar and dairy products etc..

interesting about gluten... it has been hybridized a great deal and it has changed the protein from its original... some sensitive individuals or immuno-compromised may not be able to tolerate it...
I was gluten intolerant for maybe 6 years but now, being able to tolerate it after doing a detox regimen with wheat grass... and better hydrating with water early in the morning...hmmmm

[ColporteurK]

I have made it a habit to drink 4-5 glasses of water within one hour after rising in the morning. If I do not get a jump on my water intake early on I do not get enough. A quart jar before breakfast sets on my coffee table. Often we add a teaspoon or two of European green clay the night before.

[newbie]

I have made it a habit to drink 4-5 glasses of water within one hour after rising in the morning. If I do not get a jump on my water intake early on I do not get enough. A quart jar before breakfast sets on my coffee table. Often we add a teaspoon or two of European green clay the night before.

I'm doing 3 mugs of warm/hot water in the morning now and liking it.  I agree with you, so busy that often times that is the best water all day long...  seems I forget to drink when I'm busy.

[ColporteurK]

   The lead card was written out by "Richard." When I stopped at the door and explained, his wife Randy said, she did not know anything about it. She came across as though "what did he get us into?" " Richard you did this." However she seemed to warm up fairly quickly at the table.  Grandpa Richard hobbled over and sat down. He is a very big man and with obvious health problems. He was way over weight and said that he has had both knees replaced, a shoulder and now he has a bad hip. He groaned and moaned throughout the canvass in a high pitched  way almost like a whimper. Several times he said he was going have to get up as he shifted his weight from one hip to the other but he did not get up until I was ready to leave. I canvassed the Bible stories/ Great Controversy and when Randy went to get the credit card I brought up health. Randy said, " I try to tell him that but he will not listen to me." Richard just moaned. I said that I would add on the $135.00 Natural Remedy book for $29.00 if they wanted.  Grandma Randy said, go ahead but he will not listen. They were both very touched by the prayer. Randy was headed out the door to take her grandchild to church. Richard said he was in too much pain and was staying home.

I had another lead 80 miles in the other direction. I drove over over and advertised clinics until they closed at 5:00 p.m.. Noticing a interdenominational  church in the middle of the block looking more like a department store I stopped and brought in a Bible Story brochure and a "Mark of the Beast" book. I was met by a lady who said she is the pastor's wife. We had a nice talk about the books and such. I asked her about her church. She did not want to divulge too much information so as to be identified with any particular church.
   One thing led to another and when the time was appropriate I mentioned that the United States is spoken of in the Bible? She replied that she has heard that before but has not seen that. I asked if I could show her ? She got her Bible and we did about a 15 minute study on Revelation 13:11 and onward. I repeated the symbols and commentary several times. It made sense to her. As always  I left the last part of the verse off and asked her if she thinks the United states is getting closer to God or further away. Of course, she said that it was falling away rapidly. Then I finished with the part of the verse, " and it spake as a dragon" and pointed back to Rev. 12:9 identifying the dragon. Then we talked about the papacy. I said that I grew up Catholic but am no longer. I knew that would lead to the question, " what are you now." I replied that I carefully and prayerfully studied and am an SDA. I said that I did not make that move haphazardly. The pastor's wife replied, " our son is searching and he has studied with SDAs. I left her the book and offered a prayer.
  As I was leaving she said, " I have one question for you..... do SDAs believe in hell." I answered, "yes and no." We believe the Bible teaches hell and hell fire but not quite the same as many believe. I explained as best I could while walking out the door. She replied that there are some things that we all do not exactly understand.  I think she was not closed minded about anything I was sharing and she kept the book I gave her.

[ColporteurK]

After talking with the pastor's wife I pulled out the one and only lead for the town. It is a town of about 10,000 people many of whom are minority immigrants of various kinds. It's a fairly poor town. The humble house was on the corner  of the block. When I arrived at the door Brenda was slightly taken back that the card she mailed in brought a person to the door.  This is a common response. I as not sure she was going to let me in but she did. As we sat at the table her 22 year old daughter joined in. She is a nice girl and a little slow. The boy friend was friendly but stayed aloof from us. Brenda said that he will not talk about God.

The canvass went smoothly and the responses by both ladies was positive. I was not impressed to get into heavy topics on prophecy. Brenda said that her daughter has some money saved up and she would write a check for her daughter for the full amount. I mentioned the Bedtime Story set. Kristina liked those too so  other said to include them as well. Bible Stories, Bedtime Stories, Triumph of God's Love, and the Natural Remedies. I offered a prayer. Brenda replied, " thanks for including Dean in that." I asked if they have considered marriage. Brenda said that she has been praying about that but Dean has been resisting. Her last words were God bless you !  As the daughter gave evidence that she wants the Great Stories for Kids set I will stop back later to canvass the set w the Desire of Ages.

Placing 31 volumes of books back to back in two homes  and for cash helps a cp very nicely to get down the road. Cheap gas helps as well. The Lord takes care of His workers.

[newbie]

those low gas prices are helping us all

[Ed Sutton]

Another type of silent messenger I am having success sharing,    http://tenbookbucketlist.blogspot.com 

Cp, feel free to write down the tenbookbucketlist.blogspot.com and share with those who need to memorize Bible, and bimodal read the EGW books in english and other languages, especially those who want to take the books with them on tablet, laptop, on a trip when paperback is too bulky, etc, plus video links are there too . 

[ColporteurK]

Sure !

[ColporteurK]

I have a dear friend that I have mentored over the years. We have a unique, religious brother/sister relationship. She was Lutheran but she and husband left that branch of the church because of a big upheaval. She has purchased books from me 4-5 times. Lost count. Today she emailed me and asked " what are the consequences for not observing the Sabbath ?"

As usual I gave a lengthy explanation but pondered how to answer this in short but in a way that caries a lot of weight.

My stab at it was " What are the consequences for not obeying the 6th and 7th commandments ?"

How would you answer a question like that in just a sentence or two ?

[V. Hahn]

I have a dear friend that I have mentored over the years. We have a unique, religious brother/sister relationship. She was Lutheran but she and husband left that branch of the church because of a big upheaval. She has purchased books from me 4-5 times. Lost count. Today she emailed me and asked " what are the consequences for not observing the Sabbath ?"

As usual I gave a lengthy explanation but pondered how to answer this in short but in a way that caries a lot of weight.

My stab at it was " What are the consequences for not obeying the 6th and 7th commandments ?"

How would you answer a question like that in just a sentence or two ?

Some ideas:

"Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin." James 4:17

"And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments."  Matt. 19:17

"And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ." Rev. 12:17

"Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus." Rev. 14:12

Then...
"Why wouldn't you want to keep the same day Jesus kept?'
"Why wouldn't you want to keep the only commandment that says 'remember'?"

[ColporteurK]

Good job, Vicki. Some of those verses did come to mind. A couple more :

Matthew 15:9  " But in vain they do worship me teaching for doctrines the commandments of men."
Matthew 15:13 " But he answered and said, Every plant which my heavenly Father hath not planted shall be rooted up."