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guibox

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Re: IS it ok to eat Chocolate?
« Reply #75 on: June 10, 2009, 06:06:27 AM »
Yes, I don't think it is fair to single out chocolate because of contaminates. The problem isn't with chocolate, the problem is with the processing of our food. Most of us would be mortified if we knew half of what happens to our food from harvesting to the dinner plate.

The ideal is that we grow our own and raise our own cattle if you are meat eaters. Unfortunately, most of us arent' in those positions so we must have faith that what we are eating is still good for us despite the contaminates.

It is unfortunate how bad our agricultural society has fallen since even 50 years ago.  :oops:
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wondering

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Re: IS it ok to eat Chocolate?
« Reply #76 on: June 10, 2009, 07:28:09 AM »
On the other hand,

I deal with many companies who are very particular about the way they grow and handle their food. To say that all growers and manufacturer's follow the lowest common denominator in food processing and handling is absolutely wrong. Many have processes that go way beyond what the law lays down as "acceptable".

Many companies run clean, efficient processes and the quality of their food is very high.

Surely growing our own food is ideal, but it is not fair to lump all companies into the same boat.

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Re: IS it ok to eat Chocolate?
« Reply #77 on: June 10, 2009, 08:01:24 AM »
Quote from: Larry Lyons on June 09, 2009, 10:36:50 PM
Thanks Newbie. That should be an encouragement for people to grow their own foods as much as possible. If I understood it correctly, the levels given are the maximums allowed. It doesn't tell us about the inspection procedures they have, such as how often inspections actually take place. I do not think it would be possible for the FDA to actually provide adequate inspection in every food factory in the country. Also a lot of our food comes from other countries now. It also doesn't really tell us how widespread any contamination is. The commercial food industry is all about profits. I doubt if many violators ever get caught.

Larry,
You are correct.  In the year of Katrina, the ports were all closed and the harvest of corn from my area of the mid west was all piled up in the fields and rained on and molded really bad.  You could see the green and black molds from a distance.  I took pictures.  All of that corn went into making food for humans, livestock, and pets.  Workers said that they could see the green mold for 2 feet from ground up into the corn and they shoveled it all in anyway because of prices and trying to get the most they could for the crop.

Very few are tested but when they do test, if ppm is above the FDA standards, they mix it with corn that tested very low so that the general mix is now a combined average and acceptable. 

Ask any farmer and they know exactly what goes on...  back in the early 80s I remember reading an article in Acres USA that the farmers could not control the mold in the corn. 

Well, that's just one crop.  ... there is more.

Not to mention inspectors that are not Christ-like and will accept bribes to look the other way.
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Re: IS it ok to eat Chocolate?
« Reply #78 on: June 10, 2009, 08:05:04 AM »
Quote from: wondering on June 10, 2009, 07:28:09 AM
On the other hand,

I deal with many companies who are very particular about the way they grow and handle their food. To say that all growers and manufacturer's follow the lowest common denominator in food processing and handling is absolutely wrong. Many have processes that go way beyond what the law lays down as "acceptable".

Many companies run clean, efficient processes and the quality of their food is very high.

Surely growing our own food is ideal, but it is not fair to lump all companies into the same boat.



If you know your people and their high standards, then by all means be selective.  Not all of us are as lucky as you are to have growers that will do what is right.  I shop at a place where it is farmers market and they grow things organically.  I thought they were on the up and up.  But then I found out in April they started up their markets and this was way before the crops were even planted yet.  I wondered where did they get their product?  I later found out that they went to markets in the big city and bought them and they sell them here as organic and farmed by them.  A clear lie...

As most of you mentioned, the best way is to grow your own and then you know exactly what is going on...
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guibox

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Re: IS it ok to eat Chocolate?
« Reply #79 on: June 10, 2009, 12:07:16 PM »
Quote from: newbie on June 10, 2009, 08:05:04 AM
I shop at a place where it is farmers market and they grow things organically.  I thought they were on the up and up.  But then I found out in April they started up their markets and this was way before the crops were even planted yet.  I wondered where did they get their product?  I later found out that they went to markets in the big city and bought them and they sell them here as organic and farmed by them.  A clear lie..

Not necessarily. It may not be home grown but it could still be organic. If they said, 'We grow our own produce!" that would have been a lie but they could still buy organically and sell it as 'organic'.
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Re: IS it ok to eat Chocolate?
« Reply #80 on: June 10, 2009, 01:23:42 PM »
Quote from: guibox on June 10, 2009, 12:07:16 PM
Not necessarily. It may not be home grown but it could still be organic. If they said, 'We grow our own produce!" that would have been a lie but they could still buy organically and sell it as 'organic'.

gui,
They were selling it at 'their market' as though it was their own.  It was a lie.  And, if that is a lie how many more are they covering up....
If you see a rat.......
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Maranatha

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Re: IS it ok to eat Chocolate?
« Reply #81 on: June 15, 2009, 12:02:27 PM »
newbie,
Thanks very much- that was just what I was looking for.
Marantha
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Re: IS it ok to eat Chocolate?
« Reply #82 on: June 15, 2009, 01:52:46 PM »
Quote from: Maranatha on June 15, 2009, 12:02:27 PM
newbie,
Thanks very much- that was just what I was looking for.
Marantha
you 're  welcome  :-)
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Re: IS it ok to eat Chocolate?
« Reply #83 on: April 10, 2010, 06:34:48 PM »
The FDA offers online the Defect Levels Handbook.  This handbook tells what the processing standards are for a whole list of foods.  I think that there is a problem with trying to provide a global food market in general, not only with chocolate and cashews.  Since I can't really see that I can erradicate all problems with food, I try to make reasonable decisions.  You can check out the handbook at http://www.fda.gov/Food/GuidanceComplianceRegulatoryInformation/GuidanceDocuments/Sanitation/ucm056174.htm#intro  My opinion is that it is very hard to make all foods perfectly safe.  In general I think my goals should be the following:

1.  Grow as much as I am capable of growing.  Wash my unprocessed foods with a healthy veggie spray to get the pesticides and germs off the food.

2.  Don't eat things that are unnecessary for my health and stamina if they are foods that are not very well regulated.  Or wash or boil to help.  For instance, cashews are filthy and should not be eaten raw.  They should be sanitized at the very least by pouring hot water over them before I enter them into a dish, especially if it isn't a cooked dish.

3.  Try to buy and grow organic (non-GMO) food.
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Re: IS it ok to eat Chocolate?
« Reply #84 on: April 11, 2010, 09:09:46 AM »
good advice and I do much the same....   

cashews:  they use a very caustic acid in order to get the shells off of them and washing them with warm water is very advisable to get any of the acid residue off the cashews
just a reminder that cashews are very high in fat and if you eat the CHIP way ... very much in moderation
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El

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Re: IS it ok to eat Chocolate?
« Reply #85 on: October 14, 2010, 03:49:47 PM »
Quote from: colporteur on July 29, 2008, 07:32:04 PM
That depends entirely on who you talk to. Some would say it is ok to eat anything.

Chocolate is a very unhealthily product where there is very little redeeming factors involved.

#1 To begin with it is high in refined sugar
#2 It contains an addicting drug- Caffeine.
#3 It is typically if not exclusively produced in hot third world countries where the raw product is piled in heaps and fermented.
#4 Rodents live in these piles for food and shelter and dogs that run loose pee on them like fire hydrants as they mark their territory. 
#5 Chocolate is so filthy a substance that in order for it to be accepted into this country the FDA has loosened the standard to allow 2 mouse droppings and or small insect parts per tablespoon. Of course when all the sugar is added and it is processed no one is the wiser.
#6 Milk chocolate contains dairy and all of its liability's these days.

 

Carob is naturally sweet without adding sugar, no fermenting, no caffeine, probably has not been peed on or lived in by rodents, and tastes great. When we were in another country we opened some carob pods and ate the carob. It was sweet and good. It was a cream colored powder and tasted like malted milk balls.
CP, I have given it up along with other things===I am healthier, happier, slimmer and real proud of myself.  It took a while, but I finally did it!!!!
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Re: IS it ok to eat Chocolate?
« Reply #86 on: October 14, 2010, 07:32:32 PM »
Congratulations, El! That's a real accomplishment!

 :yay:
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