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Title: What would you advise?
Post by: Richard OFfill on November 28, 2018, 05:13:07 PM
I was asked the following question.

"Could you please give some light on whether it is ever acceptable to attend a graduation ceremony on the Sabbath? I have been brought up believing that it is a no-no at all times but my wife and daughter think differently. This is very distressing to me"

What would you advise?.
Title: Re: What would you advise?
Post by: Raven on November 28, 2018, 05:54:09 PM
I'm probably the  wrong person to respond to this, since I skipped my own graduation, and went to my kids' graduations unwillingly.   :-o  :-D

How would it be possible to keep the Sabbath in a secular environment like that found at a graduation, especially a non-Adventist one?

I would not go to one on Sabbath.  Neither do I attend weddings on Sabbath if they come during the worship hours on Sabbath morning.
Title: Re: What would you advise?
Post by: Listen on November 28, 2018, 09:15:50 PM
This is a subject that I struggle with.  What is left of my family usually has any gatherings on Sabbath.  There are three of us in this area and others travel from 100 miles away.  Only my sister and I are SdA or even christian.  The atmosphere is not something I want to be in on the Sabbath.  Do I not go and rarely see them or go and feel out of place.? 
Title: Re: What would you advise?
Post by: Raven on November 29, 2018, 04:04:48 AM
Each person has to decide for themselves what works best for them.  I don't believe there is a "one size fits all" solution to the problem.  Only that the kingdom of heaven should be our top priority.  And we cannot know how to relate that to our everyday life without praying for wisdom from on High.
Title: Re: What would you advise?
Post by: Ed Sutton on December 01, 2018, 04:13:10 PM
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  I was asked the following question.

"Could you please give some light on whether it is ever acceptable to attend a graduation ceremony on the Sabbath? I have been brought up believing that it is a no-no at all times but my wife and daughter think differently. This is very distressing to me"

What would you advise?.   

Jesus sometimes asked a question to answer a question put to Him.   So here goes.  What is the difference in a graduation ceremony and a pastors ordination service ?

We are looking at two things.
A1-Nature and purpose/reason/goal of the occasion.
A2-Secular or Sacred - Whose work is it - God's work or mankind's work

B1-Intent and mission and focus of the occasion
B2-Secular or Sacred

Reference material to consider - Isaiah 58: 12-13 (especial notice)"turning thy foot...my holy day" &  "finding thine own pleasure";  Mark 2:27 - "made for man...." ( the needs/requirements of human necessities )  & Nehemiah 13:15-22; Matthew 12:1-8

Now to be sure I was on the correct path of understanding as I considered these texts and passages I would copy and paste the text(s) into folio views of the EGW CD Rom installed on my PC.

Working from the bottom of the references upward - I would ask ( Actions seen in Nehemiah 13:15-22 and Matthew 12:1-8 's expressed question )  Since the priests were skinning & butchering& cleaning and cutting up so many animals for sacrifice - with all this WORK & EFFORT during Sabbath hours - HOW COULD THEY BE GUILTLESS ?  Well I hope SOP has an answer.

priests blameless - {DA 284.1-286.4}, {BLJ 143.1-146.5}, {RH, August 3, 1897 par. 1 -
RH, August 10, 1897 par. 10 }   one thing stands out - doing God's work combined with meeting human need - even though it is increased effort still complies with Sabbath.  Also that doing our own secular works on Sabbath even though combined with meeting human need - even though it is less effort still profanes the Sabbath and guilt of Sabbath breaking is concurred.   Are the secular works required or desired, can they be on a different day ?  Are they on Sabbath because it is convenient for non Sabbath Keepers ?

lading carts sabbath - human works from the 6 days carried out on God's 7th Day .  ( seems to be obvious )

graduation ceremony - any one or any group can graduate from some course, or time of studies, not necessarily a group or system of studies dedicated to God. A graduation can be secular or sacred.   NOT always Sabbath compatible.

A pastors ordination service - the calling and mission is sacred, the individuals involved are being dedicated to God - ALWAYS a sacred calling, service, purpose, mission.   Sabbath Compatible