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Last Day Events and Pillars of Our Faith => Relevant News at the End Time => Topic started by: newbie on November 04, 2017, 08:27:07 PM

Title: So did we sign the pact agreement with 'you know who'?
Post by: newbie on November 04, 2017, 08:27:07 PM
the big meeting with all the evangelicals in rome... oct 31st
I know we sent our own representative but did he sign it?

we are not to join hands with the little horn
Title: Re: So did we sign the pact agreement with 'you know who'?
Post by: Tammy on November 05, 2017, 10:08:40 AM
You certainly wouldn't think so!
Title: Re: So did we sign the pact agreement with 'you know who'?
Post by: newbie on November 05, 2017, 11:40:57 AM
You certainly wouldn't think so!
  I know...BUT
Title: Re: So did we sign the pact agreement with 'you know who'?
Post by: Ed Sutton on November 09, 2017, 08:24:20 PM
  https://www.prophesyagain.org/single-post/2016/10/30/This-Day-In-History-Countdown-to-the-Death-of-Protestantism-10312016-to-10312017   (https://www.prophesyagain.org/single-post/2016/10/30/This-Day-In-History-Countdown-to-the-Death-of-Protestantism-10312016-to-10312017)

  https://docs.wixstatic.com/ugd/e9926e_82695efae5fc4cb5afc75d55ec3636d2.pdf   (https://docs.wixstatic.com/ugd/e9926e_82695efae5fc4cb5afc75d55ec3636d2.pdf)

   http://www.seventh-day.org/sda-papacy.htm   (http://www.seventh-day.org/sda-papacy.htm)

Daniel 11:30  For the ships of Chittim shall come against him: therefore he shall be grieved, and return, and have indignation against the holy covenant: so shall he do; he shall even return, and have intelligence with them that forsake the holy covenant.

So how many SDA Leaders & lay members in 2017 have forsook the holy covenant ? 

So it should be no surprise if some sign ?    Judas did not derail John because John decided to stand firm.   Prepare in Christ and Decide to stand firm in Christ. 

Some are like John Trask, I pray that more be like Trask's wife.   

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  A hundred years later, John Trask acknowledged the obligation of the true Sabbath, and employed voice and pen in its defense. He was soon called to account by the persecuting power of the Church of England. He declared the sufficiency of the Scriptures as a guide for religious faith, and maintained that civil authorities should not control the conscience in matters which concern salvation. He was brought for trial before the infamous tribunal of the Star Chamber, where a long discussion was held respecting the Sabbath. Trask would not depart from the injunctions and commandments of God to obey the commandments of men. He was therefore condemned, and sentenced to be set upon the pillory, and thence to be publicly whipped to the fleet, there to remain a prisoner. This cruel sentence was executed, and after a time his spirit was broken. He endured his sufferings in the prison for one year, and then recanted. Oh that he had suffered on, and won a martyr's crown!  {4SP 181.1} 

     The wife of Trask was also a Sabbath-keeper. She was declared, even by her enemies, to be a woman endowed with many virtues worthy the imitation of all Christians. She was a school-teacher of acknowledged excellence, and was noted for her carefulness in dealing with the poor. "This," said her enemies, "she professed to do out of conscience, as believing she must one day come to be judged for all things done in the flesh. Therefore she resolved to go by the safest rule, rather against than for her private interest." Yet it was declared that she possessed a spirit of strange, unparalleled obstinacy in adhering to her own opinions, which spoiled her. In truth, she chose to obey the word of God in preference to the traditions of men. At last this noble woman was seized and thrust into prison. The charge brought against her was that she taught only five days in the week, and rested on Saturday, it being known that she did it in obedience to the fourth commandment. She was accused of no crime; the motive of her act was the sole ground of complaint.  {4SP 181.2} 

     She was often visited by her persecutors, who employed their most wily arguments to induce her to renounce her faith. In reply, she begged them to show from the Scriptures that she was in error, and urged that if Sunday were really a holy day, the fact must be stated in the word of God. But in vain she asked for Bible testimony. She was exhorted to smother her convictions, and believe what the church declared to be right.  {4SP 182.1} 

     She refused to purchase liberty by renouncing the truth. The promises of God sustained her faith: "Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer. Behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison that ye may be tried." "Be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life." [Revelation 2:10.] For nearly sixteen years this feeble woman remained a prisoner, in privation and great suffering. The book of God alone can testify what she endured during those weary years. Faithfully she witnessed for the truth; her patience and fortitude failed not until she was released by death.  {4SP 182.2}

     Her name was cast out as evil on earth, but it is honored in the heavenly records. She was registered among the number who have been hunted, maligned, cast out, imprisoned, martyred; "of whom the world was not worthy." "And they shall be mine, saith the Lord of hosts, in that day when I make up my jewels." [Malachi 3:17.]  {4SP 182.3}   
Title: Re: So did we sign the pact agreement with 'you know who'?
Post by: newbie on November 09, 2017, 11:47:56 PM
So Ed did they sign it as planned?
Title: Re: So did we sign the pact agreement with 'you know who'?
Post by: Ed Sutton on November 11, 2017, 07:57:54 PM
As far as online I do not find any thing definite.

But as far as Sabbath School this morning discussing a pathfinder camporee sermon (grace alone ) too many thought we are saved by grace + works, only the co teacher and myself(other co-teacher) voted grace ALONE.

Now he knows what to base his sermon on in two weeks.
Title: Re: So did we sign the pact agreement with 'you know who'?
Post by: newbie on November 15, 2017, 08:41:10 AM
we are saved by Grace through Faith....
Title: Re: So did we sign the pact agreement with 'you know who'?
Post by: dedication on January 01, 2018, 06:11:22 PM
So Ed did they sign it as planned?

There's been no indication that Adventists signed the "togetherness" document on Oct. 31, 2017.
WCRC  (https://wcrc.ch/news/wcrc-joins-declaration-to-overcome-reformation-divisions/)  indicates Lutherns, Methodists and now they, a coalition of Reformed churches representing approximately 80 million Christians, did sign.

The Adventist denomination has not formally joined the organized ecumenical movement by becoming members of councils of churches or WCRC. They do, however, have observer, consultant, or advisor status.

However, Adventists have signed several lesser agreements over the years.


According to one report a year earlier, Conference rep Ganoune Diop met with the pope at the Vatican in October 2016, and signed an agreement with the pope and other churches to not criticize each other's religion.

And apparently there were Adventists (not conference or division leaders) who signed the "Reforming Catholic Confession" which was actually a "protestant" document outlining all the doctrines Protestants hold in common.  A move to unite Protestantism claiming the title "Catholic" for its meaning of "universal.   

Of course if protestants unite and the majority of their leaders under the "reclaimed name" of Catholic,   sign a "together" document with Roman Catholicism, we see things happening just as prophecy predicted. 

Title: Re: So did we sign the pact agreement with 'you know who'?
Post by: newbie on January 02, 2018, 06:17:21 AM
thank you dedication for that information...

so if I get this right, we did sign a document saying that we will not criticize anyone?

so that means we cannot give the 2nd and 3rd angel's message right?
Title: Re: So did we sign the pact agreement with 'you know who'?
Post by: Listen on January 26, 2018, 10:29:05 PM
Newbie,
Did you read the article by Ted Wilson, A Decisive Moment, pages 16,17 in the February 2018 of Adventist World that now has Adventist Journey on the front.
Title: Re: So did we sign the pact agreement with 'you know who'?
Post by: newbie on January 27, 2018, 05:57:12 PM
Newbie,
Did you read the article by Ted Wilson, A Decisive Moment, pages 16,17 in the February 2018 of Adventist World that now has Adventist Journey on the front.
no I did not.  do you have a link?
Title: Re: So did we sign the pact agreement with 'you know who'?
Post by: Listen on January 28, 2018, 07:04:02 PM
The February issue is not on-line yet.  The mailed issue has been delivered.  This is where it will be once it is posted.   https://www.adventistworld.org/
Title: Re: So did we sign the pact agreement with 'you know who'?
Post by: newbie on January 29, 2018, 06:46:15 AM
The February issue is not on-line yet.  The mailed issue has been delivered.  This is where it will be once it is posted.   https://www.adventistworld.org/
  okay thanks