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Lifestyle & Contemporary Issues => Christian Standards => Topic started by: Hounddog on October 21, 2016, 08:01:23 PM

Title: Sabbath Reading Material
Post by: Hounddog on October 21, 2016, 08:01:23 PM
So, I wonder sometimes about the religious books and magazines I get from even places like ABC. Do you ever wonder if even some of the religious ones are really Sabbath reading material? Can church related materials not be Sabbath compatible? Where do you draw the line when it comes to deciding what you will read on the Sabbath day?
Title: Re: Sabbath Reading Material
Post by: newbie on October 21, 2016, 08:07:03 PM
if it does not thrill your very soul, then it is lacking something
Title: Re: Sabbath Reading Material
Post by: Tammy on October 22, 2016, 08:26:50 PM


Do you ever wonder if even some of the religious ones are really Sabbath reading material?


Yes I have wondered.  If it's one where a person is telling their conversion story from a life of drugs, prison, etc., and they come out of that, that's a great story of the power of the Holy Spirit to change a heart.  But I tend to read something like that and feel like I'm sort of just entertaining myself on Sabbath afternoon.  It's easier to read than the Bible or SOP.
Title: Re: Sabbath Reading Material
Post by: Ed Sutton on October 23, 2016, 04:07:25 AM
One litmus test might be - Mental obedience / mental disobedience - Where will, where does, this material propel my mind when I read it ?  Does this material obey the written revealed will of God for union with Himself during Sabbath and the boundaries He has set regarding the letter and Spirit of Sabbatizing in Him through Him ?   

Where is the focus, (for instance material part of an uplifting story but it takes you mentally into unneeded amounts of secular labour during reading) - are the details and mechanics of 6 working days labour necessary to the story in this Sabbath reading materials ?

Does it facilitate Isaiah 58:6-14(KJV) with emphasis upon verses 12,13,14 - storing the mind with what will come out the mouth, with what moves unto greater entering into Sabbath Union with Jesus Christ - OR NOT ?

Look up "speaking thine own words"  = 69 published & 54 unpublished SOP hits . Notice  ( "speaking thine own words" business ) = 2 published hits, {PP 307.3} {RH, June 26, 1888 par. 10} no unpublished hits.

Am I the only one who suddenly gets harassed on Sabbath with thoughts, imaginations, memories of other workday or secular, righteous in themselves things during the work week but completely out of place on Sabbath , and unrighteous things, attacking and seeking, to interpose into my mind during Sabbath ? 

Good or bad preparation for Sabbath occurs for better or worse all week long, and God and Satan seek to enter the mind during those Sabbath hours. 

Dredging up the work week is often out of place on Sabbath, and dredging up the evils are almost always not in keeping with union with God during Sabbath focus on salvation's eternal things.

While testimonies are needed, all the dirt isn't needed or appropriate, enough is enough, and when it's too much, it works to put dirt into other minds and interpose between them and Christ on Sabbath, like a cluster bomb exploding out it's shrapnel.  Which is Satan's cruel design.
Title: Re: Sabbath Reading Material
Post by: Listen on October 23, 2016, 10:01:01 PM
I agree with you, Ed.  It is hard to keep the mind focused on Jesus and spiritual matters and leave the cares of the other 6 days behind.  I especially get bombarded on Sabbath by the evil one.   The Bible and SOP are my books no matter what day of the week it is.  My biggest problem can be that my mind will think one thing while I am reading something else.

I don't like to read or listen to a persons testimony that thinks we need to hear detail about their life of crime, drugs or whatever.  That person doesn't need to keep repeating it either.  In my opinion telling it is reliving it.  Not good.
Title: Re: Sabbath Reading Material
Post by: restoretruth on October 24, 2016, 12:34:51 PM
... It is hard to keep the mind focused on Jesus and spiritual matters and leave the cares of the other 6 days behind.  I especially get bombarded on Sabbath by the evil one.   The Bible and SOP are my books no matter what day of the week it is.  My biggest problem can be that my mind will think one thing while I am reading something else....

That is a problem many of us have.  I find that if I can find time to spend in the Bible & SOP every day, it is much easier to stay focused on spiritual things. It is too easy to be too busy to spend time in Bible study! Personally, I feel the need to really understand the Three Angels Messages ( & the Fourth Angel's) plus the Sanctuary & the prophecies! I believe the "everlasting gospel" being carried by the 1st Angel is the foundation of the other messages! When we understand God's purpose & His power to restore us to His image it gives us a deeper understanding of other truths!

Everyone has their own method of Bible study. My wife & I  use e-Sword on our computers & the SOP writings. We especially like the "Treasury of Scriptural Knowledge", (TSK)! It makes it so easy to read & copy cross references. (it comes with e-Sword & it's all free)! The SOP  CD is about $20. For those not familiar with e-Sword I will tell how we use it.

When I study, I like to jot down key words on a subject, either on a piece of paper or in a new word document. I then go through the list, type or copy  & paste (one at a time) into the "extended search function" in e-Sword. I then go through the  returned list of Bible verses & separate out the ones relevant to my search. The next step is going through the relevant Bible verses in e-Sword, with the TSK function open on the side.  TSK will show words or groups of words from the verse with the cross references. You can then "mouse over" the references to bring them up & see if they are relevant to your study. If you want to copy it, press  the F-4 key & it copies to your clipboard. Then paste it where you want.
 
Something I am currently studying is the subject of the"Everlasting Gospel" along with the "Everlasting Covenant". Whoever studies this subject finds it fascinating, it speaks to the heart, & it is a study that will never end!
Title: Re: Sabbath Reading Material
Post by: newbie on October 25, 2016, 09:37:49 AM
just want to make a short comment about the mention of '4th angel'...

there is no such thing...

 it is shepherd's rod that promotes this and some in our flock are picking it up as well...

to say this implies another new message and there is no more message other than the 3 angels messages.

 This 'other angel' or as the bible and SOP say, it is another angel that repeats and enlarges on the 2nd and 3rd angel's messages.

SR implies that the 4th message of new light is righteousness by faith and clearly original SOP says that RBF is the 3rd angel's message in verity....  well, they discard that and go on waving their flag denouncing our faith.

if you have not heard of them, you will, they are strong and growing and are waiting for all of us SDAs to be killed off and then they will take over our churches...  they believe that 'they' are the 144K and that if we are not with them we should be killed off....

it is not a message of love but of hate and revenge against the remnant and God's true church
Title: Re: Sabbath Reading Material
Post by: newbie on October 25, 2016, 09:43:20 AM
back on subject....

KJV bible for serious studies
original SOP for serious studies

it will thrill your heart as you read these both on Sabbath... read them over and over again...

from the redemption series, the miracles of Jesus, just read the account of the mount of transfiguration ....how glorious and wonderful it was to read about...fill your heart with the wonderful glories that God has just waiting for us...

or from her vision Dec. 1845   .......... 
This vision was written December 20, 1845 as a letter to Enoch Jacobs and was first published in the Day-Star January 24, 1846.  Then on April 6, 1846, it was reprinted in broadside form by James White and H.S. Gurney.     To the Remnant Scattered Abroad.

I'd put it here but not enough room.  If you want me to email it to you I can...pm me your email and I'll send it to you.

Oh how wonderful to read about what heaven is really like, it will thrill your soul to read such things and contemplate on them when we look above the dark world we live in...
Title: Re: Sabbath Reading Material
Post by: Hounddog on October 26, 2016, 06:31:00 PM
I had been giving my Sabbath reading some thought and even how overall I keep Sabbath because nearly every Sabbath sundown I come to that moment feeling defeated because I haven't made good choices in keeping it well. I had been pondering the reading material I have and the thought occurred to me that just because it comes from the ABC, it is not really helping me to remember the Sabbath day. So, various books may have to be given more thoughtful attention "before" the Sabbath hours.

I have already come to the conclusion that the Sabbath, computers, and I are not a good match. When you are only a click away from straying into secular traffic, you are not far from "thinking your own thoughts." So, I am eliminating on the Sabbath hours computers and iPads.

BTW, ...
I only read KJV
My goal is original SOP.

A thread drift type question would be, I have heard some are going to be trying to put out gender neutral SOP. How are these books going to be identified?

I am not impressed with all the various different compilations that have already been compiled and feel deceived when someone says EGW wrote it. Technically, I guess you could say she did, but she didn't mean some of what is inferred by it.
Title: Re: Sabbath Reading Material
Post by: newbie on October 26, 2016, 08:42:01 PM
Glad to hear that HD...
If you want me to be more specific, I can do so in a private message. 
As for devotionals, I've found the best to be This Day with God and Our High Calling.  I read them over and over again....
Title: Re: Sabbath Reading Material
Post by: Tammy on October 30, 2016, 03:16:02 PM

I am eliminating on the Sabbath hours computers and iPads.

My goal is original SOP.

Probably a good idea.  I'm not quite there but have just recently decided to only get on the computer if I plan to go directly to Audio Verse or 3ABN or to type in a certain pastor or sermon title in YouTube, but not just to go look around on YouTube.

When you say "original SOP" does that mean it would not include her devotional books that the White estate put together or the Selected Messages books, just for instance?