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Studies in the Word => Difficult Bible Texts => Topic started by: Ed Sutton on August 26, 2016, 03:02:27 PM

Title: 1 Timothy 5:24, 25 How does God look at the I-J anyway cakewalk-gauntlet ?
Post by: Ed Sutton on August 26, 2016, 03:02:27 PM
1 Timothy 5:24, 25
24  Some menís sins are open beforehand, going before to judgment; and some men they follow after.
25  Likewise also the good works of some are manifest beforehand; and they that are otherwise cannot be hid.

We're in it sink or swim, so we had better find out, and not trust to opinions.

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The 2300 days had been found to begin when the commandment of Artaxerxes for the restoration and building of Jerusalem, went into effect, in the autumn of 457 B.C. Taking this as the starting point, there was perfect harmony in the application of all the events foretold in the explanation of that period in Daniel 9:25-27. . . . The seventy weeks, or 490 years, were to pertain especially to the Jews. At the expiration of this period, the nation sealed its rejection of Christ by the persecution of His disciples, and the apostles turned to the Gentiles, A.D. 34. The first 490 years of the 2300 having then ended, 1810 years would remain. From A.D. 34, 1810 years extend to 1844. "Then," said the angel, "shall the sanctuary be cleansed."  {Mar 247.3}     

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   All are to be judged according to the things written in the books, and to be rewarded as their works have been. This judgment does not take place at death.  {Mar 251.3}   

For Example :

Words Ė recorded like unto video even showing the thoughts involved - replayed during the judgment - 
Matthew 12:34-37;  Matthew 5:22;  Psalms 55:21;  2nd Peter 2:18; Jude 1:16 ;  Luke 12:10 ; Daniel 7:11 & 25; Hosea 10:1-4; Mark 8:38; Ephesians 5:6; 1 Timothy 6:3; 2 Peter 2:3,18 

position toward others Ė
James 2:1-9;

Ezekiel 3:17-21;  Ezekiel chapters 18 and  33,   none of these are pie in the sky - admonitions.    They carry responsibilities and repercussions, only one preacher can make these things right, and His sermon was on the Mount. 

Are any readers going to take this seriously enough to read, study, respond, make things right where ever they are wrong, then earnestly pray about it to that specific preacher ?

I intend to.
Title: Re: 1 Timothy 5:24, 25 How does God look at the I-J anyway cakewalk-gauntlet ?
Post by: dedication on August 27, 2016, 01:25:15 PM
"Some men's sins are open beforehand, confessed in penitence, and forsaken, and they go beforehand to judgment. Pardon is written over against the names of these men. But other men's sins follow after, and are not put away by repentance and confession, and these sins will stand registered against them in the books of heaven" (MS 1a, 1890).  {7BC 916.3}
 
Title: Re: 1 Timothy 5:24, 25 How does God look at the I-J anyway cakewalk-gauntlet ?
Post by: Ed Sutton on August 27, 2016, 04:31:55 PM
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Redemption, what is it? It is the training process for heaven. This training means more than knowledge of books. It means a knowledge of Christ, emancipation from ideas, habits, and practices that have been gained in the school of the prince of darkness. The soul must be delivered from all that is opposed to loyalty to God. Resistance of evil must be encouraged.  {20MR 43.1} 

     Teachers in our schools must have a deep religious experience. An intellectual religion will not satisfy the soul. Intellectual training must not be neglected, but it is not sufficient. Students must be taught that the fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom. They must be taught to place the will on the side of God's will.  {20MR 43.2} 

     There are very many whose sympathies are corrupt and debased. Such cannot sing the song of the redeemed in heaven. They would be unhappy in heaven. With their darkened minds and their untrained powers, they would be out of harmony with the heavenly host. They could not unite with them in ascribing praise to God and to the Lamb.  {20MR 43.3}
 
     God's Word declares that the saints are to judge the world. But men and women who are not obedient to the law of God will never be entrusted with the judgment of the world. They have no respect for a "Thus saith the Lord." They do not conform to that law which is holy, just, and good. Therefore they are not saints--holy ones. God could not trust them to act as His representatives in the judgment. God gives all an opportunity in this life to develop character. All may fill their appointed place in His great plan.  {20MR 43.4} 

     The Lord accepted Samuel from his very childhood because his heart was pure, and he had reverence for God. He was given to God, a consecrated offering, and the Lord made him, even in his childhood, a channel of light. A life consecrated as was Samuel's is of great value in God's sight. If the youth of today will consecrate themselves as did Samuel, the Lord will accept them and use them in His work. Of their life they may be able to say with the psalmist, "O Lord, Thou hast taught me from my youth, and hitherto have I declared Thy wondrous works."  {20MR 43.5} 
Title: Re: 1 Timothy 5:24, 25 How does God look at the I-J anyway cakewalk-gauntlet ?
Post by: newbie on August 27, 2016, 09:17:59 PM
it is a struggle against the temptations of the enemy but there is power from on high that is there just waiting for us to ask for it...

after the latter rain falls on us, it will be different...  we will not want to sin and will run from it, turn away from it easily, reflecting Jesus and to do His will.... will be our desire
Title: Re: 1 Timothy 5:24, 25 How does God look at the I-J anyway cakewalk-gauntlet ?
Post by: Ed Sutton on August 28, 2016, 10:18:04 AM
When do we cease to want to sin ?

A. New Birth

B. Early Rain

C. Latter Rain
Title: Re: 1 Timothy 5:24, 25 How does God look at the I-J anyway cakewalk-gauntlet ?
Post by: Ed Sutton on November 24, 2016, 09:05:26 AM
A. New Birth is when and where we cease to want to sin.
1st John 3:
1 ∂  Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.
2  Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.
3  And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.
4 ∂  Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
5  And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.
6  Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
7  Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
8  He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
9  Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
10  In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.



Romans 8:
3  For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
4  That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
5  For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
6  For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
7  Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
8  So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
9  But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
10 ∂  And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
11  But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
12  Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.
13  For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
14  For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

New Birth = new creature, transformed mind / heart.  Sanctification ='s denying self, lifting own cross, following Jesus day by day & keeping it that way, abiding in Him, wearing His yoke of partnership, partaking of God's nature, climbing Peter's Ladder, armoring up from the inside out, resisting and deflecting Satan's wiles and internal and external attacks.  Keeping the vessel full of oil and wick trimmed and burning.
Title: Re: 1 Timothy 5:24, 25 How does God look at the I-J anyway cakewalk-gauntlet ?
Post by: dedication on November 27, 2016, 07:01:42 PM
1 Timothy 5:24, 25
24  Some menís sins are open beforehand, going before to judgment; and some men they follow after.
25  Likewise also the good works of some are manifest beforehand; and they that are otherwise cannot be hid.


The original context of this passage is advise given to Timothy and his choosing of leaders for the churches.

He was to "lay hands suddenly on no man" vs. 22, suggesting that there was to be careful investigation of character before putting anyone into responsible leadership position.

Some men's sins are open beforehand -- that is, their lives are open, their characters are known, there isn't a lot of need for a judgment as they aren't hiding anything, their sins are known.

But some others "follow after", that is -- it is not immediately apparent what they are like, they may be hiding something, they may be deceptive in their profession, but they won't escape the investigation, it will all come out in the end.

In the same way, the good deeds of some are well known, no real need to investigate as everyone knows they go about doing good,  but again there are pretenders who claim to be doing good works but when investigated they will not be able to hide their neglect.

Paul is cautioning Timothy not to be hasty in choosing leaders based on their  favorable appearances at once, or after just a short acquaintance, but to make sure they are actually qualified for the office - for there are those whose character traits may yet be concealed or misunderstood or not yet developed and will only be exposed  after being tried.


The further interpretation of course is that humans can never be sure of their judgment, thus they can only go by the "fruits" manifested,  but in the heavenly investigative judgment all hidden, cherished sins will be exposed.

Thus we see in Ellen White's writings the need for each of us to be sure are sins have been opened and placed before Christ for forgiveness and soul cleansing, so pardon is  written beside them that no hidden, cherished sins stand against us in the final judgment.

Our perfection lies in Christ's blood, which forgives and cleanses and His Spirit which leads us into paths of righteousness, it does not lie in our own righteousness.
Title: Re: 1 Timothy 5:24, 25 How does God look at the I-J anyway cakewalk-gauntlet ?
Post by: Ed Sutton on December 02, 2016, 05:29:30 AM
Acts 3:19  Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;
20  And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you:
21  Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.
22  For Moses truly said unto the fathers, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you.
23  And it shall come to pass, that every soul, which will not hear that prophet, shall be destroyed from among the people.

What do these 5 verses bring to mind RE the I-J and it's fork in the road results ?
Title: Re: 1 Timothy 5:24, 25 How does God look at the I-J anyway cakewalk-gauntlet ?
Post by: dedication on December 03, 2016, 07:08:08 PM
Christ has opened the fountain of cleansing for sin and all uncleanliness.

Who are those who stand before the throne of God in white garments rejoicing in His mercy?

Rev. 7:13 Who are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they? 
 7:14   And I said unto him, Sir, you know. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
1 John 1:9   If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us [our] sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 

Rev. 22:14  Blessed are those who wash their robes, so that they may have the right to the tree of life and that they may enter the city by the gates.

Who are those who stand outside, denied any right to the tree of life and thus face the second death?

It is those who cling to the filth of sin, and are unclean, they have not washed in the blood of the Lamb.
Rev. 221:27 And there shall in no wise enter into it  (the gates of the city) any thing that defiles, neither [whatsoever] works abomination, or [makes] a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life. 

This earth is on a crash course to destruction.
There is only one door to eternal life --
It is through Jesus -- who justifies, sanctifies and glorifies all who make Him  Lord and Savior of their lives.