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Lifestyle & Contemporary Issues => Significant Last Day Events and Bible Prophecy => Topic started by: V. Hahn on September 04, 2015, 04:53:14 PM

Title: Pope Francis on TV
Post by: V. Hahn on September 04, 2015, 04:53:14 PM
In case you haven't heard, Pope Francis is the subject of an hour-long ABC program, 20/20, tonight (9/4/15) at 10:00 pm EDT.

It might be a good one to record.

Happy Sabbath, All!
Title: Re: Pope Francis on TV
Post by: newbie on September 05, 2015, 05:02:15 PM
watched it...  he is reaching out to the youth, the poor, the struggling souls, etc... 
a girl told how she was being bullied at school and how hurtful it was and tears in her eyes...  she is trying to sing to overcome such...  the pope asked her to sing.. it was nice... but his answer of help for her

he said she is to reach out to friends and family for support and help during these times... 

yes, that is all well and good but what about Jesus and prayer and strength from above?  felt there was a serious lack of Jesus in some of the answers

what do you think?
Title: Re: Pope Francis on TV
Post by: ColporteurK on September 06, 2015, 07:26:47 AM

Canvassed a Nazarene lady the other evening. She said, " I really like this pope. He is down to earth and not living in an ivory tower. "
Title: Re: Pope Francis on TV
Post by: newbie on September 06, 2015, 02:42:38 PM

Canvassed a Nazarene lady the other evening. She said, " I really like this pope. He is down to earth and not living in an ivory tower. "
it is all the outward showing...  that's what people see...  beneath this show there is something much more sinister going on
Title: Re: Pope Francis on TV
Post by: ColporteurK on September 07, 2015, 08:29:01 AM

Canvassed a Nazarene lady the other evening. She said, " I really like this pope. He is down to earth and not living in an ivory tower. "
it is all the outward showing...  that's what people see...  beneath this show there is something much more sinister going on

That's the problem when people do not know or forget history and..... do not know or believe their Bibles.
When some of our people ignored counsel and went to Vatican II they came away with the idea that the papacy is now a nice lady. They do not accept Scripture but go with their own superior knowledge. This reminds me of the first great deception in the garden of Eden. When Eve went on Satan's ground out of curiosity it was all over but the crying.

There is a side issue to this experience. She was wearing black nail polish on all twenty nails. Many that do that are not intentionally into witchcraft but their is a guiding spirit that leads them to this.
Title: Re: Pope Francis on TV
Post by: newbie on September 08, 2015, 07:44:01 AM
those who refuse to learn from history will be bond to repeat it...
Title: Re: Pope Francis on TV
Post by: ColporteurK on September 24, 2015, 02:21:46 PM
"Carson, a Seventh Day Adventist, said despite his schedule, hearing the pope is a high priority."

"It's always a historic occasion when the Pontiff comes to America. And I hope we're very welcoming and we'd love to hear what he has to say," Carson said Wednesday in Jackson, Michigan. "I feel a need to be everywhere. And that happened to be on the top of the list tomorrow."


Do you think if Martin Luther were alive today he would say this ?


Title: Re: Pope Francis on TV
Post by: Raven on September 24, 2015, 04:43:05 PM


Do you think if Martin Luther were alive today he would say this ?




No, but the circumstances are different.  We still have religious liberty in this country.  The pope isn't threatening to excommunicate or burn at the stake anyone who doesn't believe as he does--yet.  And it's always informative to listen to what he has to say, even though one often needs an interpreter to decode the doublespeak.

Hey, at least he didn't refer to him as "the holy father."  :roll:
Title: Re: Pope Francis on TV
Post by: ColporteurK on September 24, 2015, 08:31:48 PM


Do you think if Martin Luther were alive today he would say this ?




No, but the circumstances are different.  We still have religious liberty in this country.  The pope isn't threatening to excommunicate or burn at the stake anyone who doesn't believe as he does--yet.  And it's always informative to listen to what he has to say, even though one often needs an interpreter to decode the doublespeak.

Hey, at least he didn't refer to him as "the holy father."  :roll:

I wonder if Luther were here today and understood not only the past but  the current and future prophetic picture as we do if he would welcome the pope's address.
Title: Re: Pope Francis on TV
Post by: Raven on September 25, 2015, 03:16:36 AM
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I wonder if Luther were here today and understood not only the past but  the current and future prophetic picture as we do if he would welcome the pope's address.

I doubt that "welcome" would be the best way to describe it.  He would certainly scrutinize it carefully.
Title: Re: Pope Francis on TV
Post by: GraceVessel on September 25, 2015, 04:17:23 AM
Since you are bringing up what the Pope says out of context and applying it to everything he is saying being suspect, and you are using Martin Luther as a bell-weather...

Here is a snippet summary of the book that Martin Luther wrote in the last 5 years of his life entitled "The Jews and their lies"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Jews_and_Their_Lies

In the treatise, Luther describes Jews as a "base, whoring people, that is, no people of God, and their boast of lineage, circumcision, and law must be accounted as filth."[6] Luther wrote that they are "full of the devil's feces ... which they wallow in like swine,"[7] and the synagogue is an "incorrigible whore and an evil slut".[8]

In the first ten sections of the treatise, Luther expounds, at considerable length, upon his views concerning Jews and Judaism and how these compare to Christians and Christianity. Following this exposition, Section XI of the treatise advises Christians to carry out seven remedial actions. These are
1.to burn down Jewish synagogues and schools and warn people against them;
2.to refuse to let Jews own houses among Christians;
3.for Jewish religious writings to be taken away;
4.for rabbis to be forbidden to preach;
5.to offer no protection to Jews on highways;
6.for usury to be prohibited, and for all silver and gold to be removed, put aside for safekeeping and given back to Jews who truly convert; and
7.to give young, strong Jews flail, axe, spade, spindle, and let them earn their bread in the sweat of their noses.[4]


I don't necessarily approve of what the Pope says.  I read it on it's face value -- does what he say agree with the bible?

There is something to ... contextual relevance.  I still strongly believe that God used Martin Luther for the time in which he lived, and also uses us (if we are willing) to draw all to himself - If he is truly lifted up.

with kind regards,

Gracevessel
Title: Re: Pope Francis on TV
Post by: GraceVessel on September 25, 2015, 04:20:36 AM
This from a foundational perspective, laid the groundwork for the anti-Semitism that Adolf Hitler tapped into during the first half of the last century.

I think specifically discussing what we agree with that the Pope is saying, and also what we DONT agree with gives the proper context.  Otherwise... we appear to other's as having the "chicken little" syndrome.

with kind regards,

Gracevessel
Title: Re: Pope Francis on TV
Post by: ColporteurK on September 25, 2015, 07:40:30 AM
Some of us look deeper than "face value" when it comes to the papacy. We consider other things she says and within the context of the past, present, and future events in light of the bigger picture of Bible prophecy. We consider the Jesuit oath and we consider that  this pro homosexual pope says that atheists will be in heaven. The whole world is coming unglued and some still do not accept that the sky is indeed falling howbeit not all at once.

Just in America :

1. same sex marriage in all 50 states.
2. legalized marijuana
3. unprecedented corruption in politics even out in the open.
4. 0ver 200 trillion in debt when entitlements like SSI are included.
5. Fires burn out of control in California
6. Long term drought in California that threatens to reach epic proportions.
7. terroristic shootings on almost a daily basis
8. heart disease, cancer, Alzheimer's, and disease in general running rampant.
9. Gross ignorance and neglect of the study of the Bible
10. The first openly Jesuit pope addresses congress for the first time in the history of this so called protestant nation.
11. Politicians like Arizona Senator Sylvia  Allen suggesting a Sunday Law to force worship on Sunday.
12. A president that is forcing gov't heath care and many other things through a myriad of executive orders.
13. A Catholic majority supreme court that breaks the law by creating news laws requiring same sex marriage.
14. Mass unemployment- the reason the numbers do not look worse than they do is because many have ceased to look for jobs and therefore are not registered.
15. Many major businesses have left the US to avoid heavy taxation.
16. The southern border largely left open as well as bringing in illegals by the bus load to receive entitlements
17. The public under constant surveillance through cameras, their phones, computers, snail mail, etc.,etc.
18. Divorce rate at upwards of 60 % and many do not even get married in the first place.
19. Suicide the number one cause of death among teens
20.  GMO crops and the heavy use of chemical.
21 Massive and abusive confinement raising of animals. The air stinks so bad in those parts of the country that sometimes one can hardly stand to drive through the area.
22. Unprecedented number of inoculations pressed upon the American public
23 Wicca priestesses are invited to give prayer to the planets at a political convention in Iowa and Harry potter books sell by the millions.
24. People  everywhere experiencing supposed visitations from the dead.
25 Common Core taught in public schools.
26 Major military build up in other countries while the US is diminishing its military. 


That does not seem like peace and safety to me !"
And, I am not interested in the pope's proposed answer.
Title: Re: Pope Francis on TV
Post by: Raven on September 25, 2015, 03:43:12 PM

13. A Catholic majority supreme court that breaks the law by creating news laws requiring same sex marriage.


That has got to be one of the strangest developments this year.  It makes what Walter Veith has said much more plausible.  They will play both sides of an issue if it will further their agenda in the long run.  And then there was the spectacle of John Boehner and Joe Biden sitting behind the pope.  Both are "devout" Catholics, but are poles apart politically.

Ever feel like you stepped "through the looking-glass?"
Title: Re: Pope Francis on TV
Post by: Raven on September 25, 2015, 03:50:25 PM
Since you are bringing up what the Pope says out of context and applying it to everything he is saying being suspect, and you are using Martin Luther as a bell-weather...



I'm not sure who you're addressing or what you talking about.  The pope is a social justice leftist, just like our "Christian" president (who rarely attends church, unlike Jimmy Carter, who, while he wasn't a great president, at least was sincere about his religion).  One must listen to him carefully to detect the doublespeak, which is characteristic of papal statements.  You can be sure that every word was weighed carefully before it was written out.  I'm guessing his speech was written out weeks ago in Spanish, and then carefully translated into English (since he is not fluent in English).
Title: Re: Pope Francis on TV
Post by: newbie on September 25, 2015, 04:22:52 PM
wondering if boehner's resignation will pave the way for a jesuit to take that seat?
Title: Re: Pope Francis on TV
Post by: ColporteurK on September 26, 2015, 04:01:36 PM
wondering if boehner's resignation will pave the way for a jesuit to take that seat?

That is highly likely.