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Lifestyle & Contemporary Issues => Christian Standards => Topic started by: ColporteurK on August 15, 2015, 05:19:33 PM

Title: Who Invented Guilt ?
Post by: ColporteurK on August 15, 2015, 05:19:33 PM

Today the pastor said he needed to call an audible and change his entire sermon. Interesting. I think he should have stayed with the call from the huddle.

The young pastor began his sermon  telling about how the other day he and his family were engaged in a family Rook, card playing tournament. Since he was paired up with a relative that like himself was not good at the game they devised a way to cheat with hand signals. They almost won. Then he kind of chuckled and said that we ought not cheat as it is dishonest. Wonderful !

Then he went into the story of the prodigal son. Followed by a lesson on guilt and behavior. He said that who we are is not determined by what we do or by our behavior. Since choices and behavior form character and our character determines whether the Lord is our Father or our father is the devil, I disagree with the whipper snapper pastor. Our behavior is an indicator of who we are and it determines who we are through the process of time. The pastor said that who we are is determined by whose we are. That's fine but what tells us whose we are ? By their fruit ye shall know them. We are judged by works therefore works are an indicator of who has our heart and whose character we are reflecting.

He went on to tell that we ought not be troubled by guilt because God has forgiven us since we are His people. He indicated several times that guilt ought to be pushed aside. Now I understood how he could cheat in Rook, share it with us, and not be much troubled by it. He really thought that this was a great message, so much so as to call an audible and change his sermon. However, I wonder how many youth went away thinkling, " well, if even the pastor cheated in cards, it must not be so bad if I do it."

Isn't guilt a bit like the nerves in my finger that when I hit my finger with the hammer it hurts and therefore warns me not to do that again ? Are the nerves my enemy ? Did Satan create the nerves ? No God created the nerves for a purpose and God created as it were guilt as a result of sin. If there were no guilt for anything would we ever feel sorrow for sin or would the sorrow simply be after the sorrow that Judas and Pharaoh had? 

While he mentioned in passing that God wants to deliver us from sin the general tenor was that we need to drop guilt and run to the celebration that the father of the prodigal held in honor
Title: Re: Who Invented Guilt ?
Post by: newbie on August 15, 2015, 07:56:18 PM
the sermon we had today said it is our fault that Jesus has not come...
we all must do more


some of us are about ready to collapse we are doing so much daily for the church in all areas...  seems to me the message was for those reeds in the wind that sometimes come but do not help out... wdyt?

Title: Re: Who Invented Guilt ?
Post by: Ed Sutton on August 21, 2015, 06:29:20 PM
God invented guilt that leads to repentance, Calvary and conversion.  God wounds to heal.

Satan invented synthetic guilt that leads to fretting one's self to pieces, and not to trust in God and His mercy, promises, and power to save unto the uttermost, till obedience becomes normal to the folks naturally once children of disobedience.

Satan wounds to cripple, torture, kill without remedy.
Title: Re: Who Invented Guilt ?
Post by: GraceVessel on August 22, 2015, 04:33:01 AM
God invented guilt that leads to repentance, Calvary and conversion.  God wounds to heal.

Satan invented synthetic guilt that leads to fretting one's self to pieces, and not to trust in God and His mercy, promises, and power to save unto the uttermost, till obedience becomes normal to the folks naturally once children of disobedience.

Satan wounds to cripple, torture, kill without remedy.

Very good post Ed.  I know Wintley Phipps mentions that someone told him "if the mountain was smooth... you couldn't climb it".

with kind regards,

Gracevessel
Title: Re: Who Invented Guilt ?
Post by: Tammy on August 22, 2015, 07:17:06 AM
"if the mountain was smooth... you couldn't climb it".

I like this quote!  Assuming it means that we can't be sanctified without trials.
Title: Re: Who Invented Guilt ?
Post by: ColporteurK on August 22, 2015, 03:36:55 PM
the sermon we had today said it is our fault that Jesus has not come...
we all must do more


some of us are about ready to collapse we are doing so much daily for the church in all areas...  seems to me the message was for those reeds in the wind that sometimes come but do not help out... wdyt?

Newbie; and some, are saying that if we do not campaign for or vote for politicians we are sitting on our hands, and doing nothing. Meanwhile we are doing all we can personally taking the message to people in their homes. I think if more people were doing that instead of campaigning, and pumping up and fawning over politicians the work would be finished. Jesus never entered politics to do His work.

   Then there are some who are washing cars for the public on Sabbath. Some are going to pro ball games and witnessing on Sabbath and Sunday. It seems that many are becoming very confused as to what evangelism is all about.
Title: Re: Who Invented Guilt ?
Post by: newbie on August 22, 2015, 07:07:08 PM
must pray for God's people and His church