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Title: Demise of SDA Boarding Schools
Post by: sdazeal on September 24, 2013, 06:15:45 PM
Not sure if this was the right category for this, but since it involves teens, guess its okay. I have expressed part of this on another thread, but also feel it is a relevant topic on its own.

I am very concerned our schools, as the conservative boarding schools are dropping like flies. It has also come to my attention that the conference is simply waiting for the demise of yet another long-established boarding school so that more money can be channeled into the day school that is in the city. Enrollment in our boarding schools is dropping drastically. I have a few theories about this, but would like to hear some experienced opinions as to why this is happening.
Title: Re: Demise of SDA Boarding Schools
Post by: Raven on September 25, 2013, 03:16:07 AM
I'm sure there are many reasons for the demise of our boarding schools, but expense has to be a major factor.  Who has the money these days to send their kids to one of our Academies or colleges?  We home-schooled because we could not afford the local SDA School.  My son is going to one of our colleges, but he will be it debt for years.  Why has the church allowed this to happen?  I did some research and found that the cost of education in our schools (colleges, that is) has far outstripped the inflation rate over the past 40 years.  What cost a dollar 40 years ago, costs $8 now.  That's the general rate of inflation.  But if it cost you a dollar to send your kid to an SDA college 40 years ago, it now costs $16.  It's gotten so only the very rich or the very poor can get to college without signing their lives away.  Those of us in the middle are stuck with the bill.  But I don't see that it is being addressed at the GC level.
Title: Re: Demise of SDA Boarding Schools
Post by: sdazeal on September 25, 2013, 07:16:21 AM
Raven I know that Oklahoma Academy charges less for boarding than many of the day schools do for day classes. I also know that at OA we had many students who were not rich. This is because the staff there work for very little money and most stay in mobile homes on campus. The school had worthy student scholarships for kids who wanted to attend but couldn't afford it.
Title: Re: Demise of SDA Boarding Schools
Post by: newbie on September 25, 2013, 05:35:23 PM
a couple of years ago our conference sold out one of our big schools
now it is run by a woman that is from India and pagan worship... it makes me sick when we pass by...
Title: Re: Demise of SDA Boarding Schools
Post by: sdazeal on September 27, 2013, 06:02:29 PM
Yes, Newbie, and Laurelwood Academy in Gaston, Oregon, is now an Eastern Meditation Center.
Title: Re: Demise of SDA Boarding Schools
Post by: Raven on September 28, 2013, 02:49:01 AM
My grandfather would be rolling in his grave if he knew this.  He graduated from there almost 100 years ago.
Title: Re: Demise of SDA Boarding Schools
Post by: Larry Lyons on September 28, 2013, 07:54:47 AM
Vance Ferrell' book "Broken Blueprint" gives a history of how Adventist education got from the inspired original plan to where it is today. The book use to be free to download from one of V.F.'s websites.
Title: Re: Demise of SDA Boarding Schools
Post by: sdazeal on September 28, 2013, 09:06:31 AM
Ironically, Larry,  George Knight just released a book in which he objects to the use of the word, and concept, of "blueprint" with regard to our lifestyle and schools. He says that Ellen White never used that word and that "pattern" or "similitude" ( an approximation), words which she did use, are not the same as a blueprint, which would be an exact plan down to the letter. Seem kind of ticky tacky, but apparently the idea of blueprint creates, in Knight's mind, a rigidity that turns people off and does not allow for progress.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Demise of SDA Boarding Schools
Post by: Larry Lyons on September 28, 2013, 02:51:05 PM
Zeal, I don't believe that the title of the book necessarily discounts the book's content or would put off people the way Knight suggests. It has been several years since I read it, but as I recall it was detailed and documented. It sounds to me like Knight is nit picking. Ferrell describes that the Adventist schools did not stay on track very long from about the time Ellen White died, and most of them now bear little or no resemblance to what she outlined under inspiration. The same can be said of our health system, which is also discussed in Ferrell's book. Ferrell gets criticism, some of it for not verifying certain information, but I don't think that applies to the book since he is looking at history of the institutions.




Title: Re: Demise of SDA Boarding Schools
Post by: newbie on September 28, 2013, 04:51:41 PM
I have heard that the original 'blueprint' *smile*  for our schools still exists and that in one of the foreign countries they are using it with success...
wish I could remember what country is using this... :-(
Title: Re: Demise of SDA Boarding Schools
Post by: Larry Lyons on September 28, 2013, 05:51:01 PM
Newbie, That's good to hear.
Title: Re: Demise of SDA Boarding Schools
Post by: sdazeal on September 28, 2013, 07:35:24 PM
Well, I don't personally care for Ferrel's bombastic style, continuingly repeating the same quotes and texts over and over again in bold letters, etc. That said, I do believe there is somewhat of a blueprint for our schools. I think Oklahoma Academy tries very hard to stick with that blueprint, even though it can get in the way of creative solutions sometimes, like in the case of my girl.
Title: Re: Demise of SDA Boarding Schools
Post by: newbie on September 29, 2013, 08:44:12 AM
Newbie, That's good to hear.
I think I have a copy of it somewhere....  I'll see if I can find it.
Title: Re: Demise of SDA Boarding Schools
Post by: Ed Sutton on February 20, 2014, 11:04:23 PM
Is this it ?

 http://www.e-hope4all.info/media-eng/Broken_Blueprint_Adventist_Education.pdf   (http://www.e-hope4all.info/media-eng/Broken_Blueprint_Adventist_Education.pdf)


 http://maranathamedia.com/maranatha-media-resources/books/history/06-adventist/402-broken-blueprint-vance-ferrell  (http://maranathamedia.com/maranatha-media-resources/books/history/06-adventist/402-broken-blueprint-vance-ferrell)

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A few chapters in PDF of Knight's Book

 http://www.pacificpress.com/pp/misdta/Chapters/0828014302.pdf   (http://www.pacificpress.com/pp/misdta/Chapters/0828014302.pdf)

whole book from ABC link

 http://www.adventistbookcenter.com/a-brief-history-of-seventh-day-adventists.html   (http://www.adventistbookcenter.com/a-brief-history-of-seventh-day-adventists.html)

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link to a timeline of SDA Education pdf

 http://circle.adventist.org/files/jae/en/jae200567051005.pdf   (http://circle.adventist.org/files/jae/en/jae200567051005.pdf)

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link reference to Adventist blueprint education

  http://circle.adventist.org/browse/?browse_node=370  (http://circle.adventist.org/browse/?browse_node=370)

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I found this unexpectedly - The New method in diabetes John Harvey Kellogg

   http://books.google.com/books?id=Wq_Vmi20V1oC&source=gbs_similarbooks   (http://books.google.com/books?id=Wq_Vmi20V1oC&source=gbs_similarbooks)

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Series B # 11 The Madison School - EGW  ( PDF)

 http://www.upavision.com/Downloads/The%20Madison%20School.pdf  (http://www.upavision.com/Downloads/The%20Madison%20School.pdf)


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Madison School with old picture

  http://www.stories-for-children.ca/beautiful-farm.php  (http://www.stories-for-children.ca/beautiful-farm.php)

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STUDIES IN CHRISTIAN EDUCATION
 
Education Experiences Before The Midnight Cry
compared with
Education Experiences Before The Loud Cry
 
by
 
E. A. Sutherland

 http://www.e-hope4all.info/media-eng/StudiesInChristianEducation-E.A.Sutherland.pdf  (http://www.e-hope4all.info/media-eng/StudiesInChristianEducation-E.A.Sutherland.pdf)

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Madison God's Beautiful Farm (ebook)  may have to buy something - be aware

 http://ebookstorm.com/ebook/2112179/madison-god-s-beautiful-farm  (http://ebookstorm.com/ebook/2112179/madison-god-s-beautiful-farm)

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THE NURTURE OF FAITH IN THE TEACHING OF
DENOMINATIONAL HISTORY

Avondale College

Allen Lindsay

 http://ict.aiias.edu/vol_05/05cc_129-149.pdf   (http://ict.aiias.edu/vol_05/05cc_129-149.pdf)
Title: Re: Demise of SDA Boarding Schools
Post by: newbie on February 24, 2014, 05:54:58 PM
was not what I was thinking of... 

can't remember the name of the school... it was a one word title as the school that all of our schools were supposed to be modeled after.... 
Title: Re: Demise of SDA Boarding Schools
Post by: Ed Sutton on February 25, 2014, 03:10:04 AM
Was it a school EGW helped start ?
Title: Re: Demise of SDA Boarding Schools
Post by: newbie on February 25, 2014, 07:03:22 PM
It was a message from God to EGW as to how all of our schools should be run.
Title: Re: Demise of SDA Boarding Schools
Post by: Ed Sutton on February 26, 2014, 08:34:17 AM
Was it Spalding Magan Collection ?
Title: Re: Demise of SDA Boarding Schools
Post by: newbie on February 26, 2014, 07:23:44 PM
There are many schools listed in that collection but not the name that I remember from the model school directed by God and given to EGW.

If I remember right the school was designed specifically to train young people to be missionaries and they learned all the skills necessary for farming and growing gardens.  The produce would then be sold to support the school.  The school when designed properly worked well and it was self-supporting.

I don't have time right now to go through all my paperwork but at some point maybe God will help me find it.


Title: Re: Demise of SDA Boarding Schools
Post by: sdazeal on February 27, 2014, 08:07:15 AM
Cumberland?
Title: Re: Demise of SDA Boarding Schools
Post by: newbie on February 27, 2014, 04:41:07 PM
that's a good guess and I think the name might have started with a C or a K...  I'm trying hard to find it...  doing all I can...

It was posted on Ed W.'s site but the monies ran out 2 years after Ed's death from mesothelioma.
Title: Re: Demise of SDA Boarding Schools
Post by: sdazeal on February 27, 2014, 07:56:51 PM
Pretty sure it was Cumberland. I believe that school exists now as Laurelbrook Academy.Or at least LA is a charter member of the Cumberland school projects.
Title: Re: Demise of SDA Boarding Schools
Post by: Ed Sutton on February 28, 2014, 07:08:54 AM
Josephine Cunnington Edwards used to teach there.
Title: Re: Demise of SDA Boarding Schools
Post by: sdazeal on March 01, 2014, 10:11:41 AM
Ed, when I was seeking a school for my kidlets, it came down to Laurelbrook and Oklahoma Academy, since both were interested in hiring me as a mechanic.
Title: Re: Demise of SDA Boarding Schools
Post by: Jim on March 04, 2014, 06:37:38 PM
I'm wondering if you're referring to madison. If I remember correctly she had a dream about the property.
Title: Re: Demise of SDA Boarding Schools
Post by: newbie on March 04, 2014, 09:11:43 PM
I'm wondering if you're referring to madison. If I remember correctly she had a dream about the property.

if you were talking to me, yes that does sound familiar.. I had sent the plans/blueprint to a person a few years ago and I'm hoping they can find it... and also put in an email to the woman that ran Ed's site after he died...
Title: Re: Demise of SDA Boarding Schools
Post by: Ed Sutton on March 05, 2014, 12:58:36 AM
when copied it was all caps - I did not put them there.

The Madison School and the work in Nashville TN was to be the symbol and "blueprint" as it were for the work in the south.

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June 2, 1913 ON THE SPIRIT OF PROPHECY
W. C. WHITE
JUNE 1, 8:30 A.M.


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REGARDING THE INTEREST THAT SISTER WHITE FEELS FOR THE WORK IN THE SOUTHERN STATES, IT CAN TRULY BE SAID THAT THE INTENSE INTEREST WHICH SHE MANIFESTED IN THE UPBUILDING OF THE NASHVILLE PUBLISHING HOUSE, THE GRAYSVILLE SCHOOL, THE GRAYSVILLE SANITARIUM, THE HUNTSVILLE SCHOOL AND SANITARIUM, THE NASHVILLE SANITARIUM, AND IN THE MADISON SCHOOL, WAS THE RESULT OF REVELATIONS FROM GOD, AND NOT, AS SOME WOULD SAY, ENTHUSIASM AROUSED BY APPEALS AND REPRESENTATIONS OF MEN.  {GCB, June 2, 1913 par. 18} 

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   The Madison school farm is to be an object-lesson for the Southern field. It is in an excellent location, and fully as near Nashville as it should be. {SpTB11 20.1}   

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  "Every possible means should be devised to establish schools of the Madison order in various parts of the South. . . .You have no time to lose" Does that mean you?  {PH012 2.3}
 
              A Quick Work.

     WE ARE PRONE TO OVERLOOK THE RESULTS THAT THE LORD HAS SAID WILL FOLLOW FAITHFUL WORK IN THE SOUTH. CONCERNING THE CONDUCT OF SCHOOLS OF THE MADISON ORDER WE ARE TOLD:--


                    -3-  {PH012 2.4} 
     "It would have been pleasing to God if, while the Madison school has doing its work, other such schools had been established in different parts of the Southern field. . . . Labor to encourage others to do a similar work. Then the light of truth will be carried in a simple and effective way, And a Great Work will be Accomplished for the Master in a Short Time."  {PH012 3.1} 
     "The class of education given at the Madison school is such as will be accounted a treasure of great value by those who take up missionary work in foreign fields. If many more in other schools were receiving a similar training, we as a people would be a spectacle to the world, to angels, and to men. The message would be quickly carried to every country, and souls now in darkness would be brought to the light."  {PH012 3.2} 
     THE PLAN FOLLOWED BUY THE MADISON SCHOOL, IF CARRIED ON AS IT SHOULD BE BY OTHERS, GOD SAYS WILL HASTEN THE COMING OF THE LORD. COULD WE ASK FOR ANY BETTER INDUCEMENT TO UNDERTAKE A WORK?  {PH012 3.3} 
     A TRAINING FOR FOREIGN FIELDS.

     AGAIN, THIS KIND OF WORK IN THE SOUTH IS GOD'S MEANS OF DEVELOPING A STRONG CLASS OF FOREIGN MISSIONARIES, FOR--  {PH012 3.4} 
     "The school at Madison not only educates in a knowledge of the Scriptures, but it gives a practical training that fits the student to go forth as a self-supporting missionary to the field to which he is called. . . .They have been learning to become self-supporting, and a training more important than this they could


                    -4-

not receive. Thus they have obtained a valuable education for usefulness in missionary fields. . . .  {PH012 3.5} 
     "The class of education given at the Madison school is such as will be accounted a treasure of great value by those who take up missionary work in a foreign field."  {PH012 4.1} 
     A TRAINING FOR FOREIGN FIELDS;  {PH012 4.2} 
     A TRAINING IN SELF-SUPPORT;  {PH012 4.3} 
     A TRAINING THAT WILL HASTEN THE COMING OF THE LORD;  {PH012 4.4} 
     IS IT WORTH HAVING A PART IN?  {PH012 4.5} 
     "This work is to be done now, while the angels continue to hold the four winds. There is no time to lose. . . .Shall we not hear of many volunteers?. . . .Why have you not a deeper sense of necessities of the Southern field?  {PH012 4.6} 
     THE WORK IS TO BE DONE. IT SHOULD BE DONE NOW. YOU SHOULD VOLUNTEER TO ENTER THIS FIELD. BEFORE VERY LONG THE LAST OPPORTUNITY WILL HAVE BEEN GIVEN SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTISTS TO DO THIS WORK. GOD WILL THEN TURN TO MEN IN THE BYWAYS AND HEDGES, AND WE IDLE SEVENTH DAY ADVENTISTS WILL BE PASSED BY FOREVER.  {PH012 4.7}   


The Madison School is gone, nothing special remains, most all the property is sold off, the property where corn once grew on the farm is part of the municipal park system, Southern Publishing has been closed and sold off for decades, the San became a hospital, and finally got sold to the Baptists, then to TriStar Health Systems if I remember correctly.  I worked and lived at Madison Hosp., from 1975-1978 and watched as step by step it was all chipped away.

Title: Re: Demise of SDA Boarding Schools
Post by: Ed Sutton on March 05, 2014, 01:14:37 AM
From Larkin Springs Road over to Neely's Bend Road all the way down to extensive bottom land boundried by the Cumberland River. 

Once a huge property well over a thousand acres. 

All gone now except for Campus Church and a few properties, each chunk sold off to make money and the glory left it long ago, without it in the heart of the people the land it self was just buildings and dirt.

One nurse who was friends with my mother in law, "said there's a dark cloud over Madison Hospital."   She did not mean weather, and she was right.

What could not be controlled because it was originally self supporting step by step was brought under control and then sold off .  I remember the families and friends uprooted from us by Southern Publishing getting sold off.  All stuff drawn up and directed by committees was "regular lines", anything self supporting was "irregular lines" and opposed.

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  A deep interest should be taken in the building up of our work in and around Nashville. The planting of the Southern Publishing Association's office there was providential. Nashville is an educational center. In and near it there are many large colleges. Into these colleges the truth for this time is to be carried. Efforts are to be made for all classes, the educated and the uneducated, the white people and the colored people.  {PH151 75.1} 

     I have been instructed that we are to establish memorials for God in Nashville, not right in the city, but at a little distance from it. Lines of work are to be started that will advance the truth. These lines of work are not to be carried forward by individuals or companies, as private business, but are to be Union Conference enterprises.  {PH151 75.2} 

     For lack of means, the work may at first move slowly, but by God's blessing it will advance. The medical missionary work must be firmly established in Nashville; for this work is the right hand of the gospel. The Nashville Sanitarium need not be a large building, but it should be larger than those established in smaller cities. A building already erected should be secured, if a suitable one can be found in a favorable locality. A well-equipped sanitarium, situated a few miles out of the city of Nashville, will exert great influence for good among the people. Let us ask the Lord to open the way for this work, and to lead us in its advancement. We have a God who hears and answers prayer. In His providence He will work on minds as He has worked in the past, leading men to favor our people by offering them property at low prices.  {PH151 75.3} 

     As Nashville is to be a center for our work in the South, a school as well as a sanitarium should be established a few miles from the city. Land should be secured, and believers should be encouraged to settle on it.  {PH151 76.1}

 Means must come in for the advancement of this work. The work is to be carried forward with as little outlay of means as possible. But while economy is essential, no cheapness should be allowed in the work. The perfection of God's character is to be represented by all that His people do.  {PH151 76.2} 

     In establishing schools, one important point is to secure land sufficient for the carrying forward of industries that will enable the students to be self-supporting. There should be land sufficient for the raising of the fruit and vegetables required by the school, and also some for sale. Agriculture should be made a financial benefit to the school.  {PH151 76.3} 
     Nashville, Graysville, Huntsville, and Hildebran have been presented to me as places favorable for the raising of crops for the use of the school, and for marketing.  {PH151 76.4}     


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  The publishing houses were established in America in the counsel of God, under his direction and supervision, and they should stand in their own individuality, as sister institutions. Never should they be so related to each other that one shall have power to control the running of the other. If one institution shall adopt a policy which the other does not sanction, the other institution is not to be corrupted, but is to stand in its God-given responsibility, true to the principles that were expressed in its establishment, and carrying forward the work in harmony with those principles.  {PH150 12.3}   
Title: Re: Demise of SDA Boarding Schools
Post by: newbie on March 05, 2014, 05:10:58 PM
when copied it was all caps - I did not put them there.

The Madison School and the work in Nashville TN was to be the symbol and "blueprint" as it were for the work in the south.

Quote
June 2, 1913 ON THE SPIRIT OF PROPHECY
W. C. WHITE
JUNE 1, 8:30 A.M.


Quote
REGARDING THE INTEREST THAT SISTER WHITE FEELS FOR THE WORK IN THE SOUTHERN STATES, IT CAN TRULY BE SAID THAT THE INTENSE INTEREST WHICH SHE MANIFESTED IN THE UPBUILDING OF THE NASHVILLE PUBLISHING HOUSE, THE GRAYSVILLE SCHOOL, THE GRAYSVILLE SANITARIUM, THE HUNTSVILLE SCHOOL AND SANITARIUM, THE NASHVILLE SANITARIUM, AND IN THE MADISON SCHOOL, WAS THE RESULT OF REVELATIONS FROM GOD, AND NOT, AS SOME WOULD SAY, ENTHUSIASM AROUSED BY APPEALS AND REPRESENTATIONS OF MEN.  {GCB, June 2, 1913 par. 18} 

Quote
   The Madison school farm is to be an object-lesson for the Southern field. It is in an excellent location, and fully as near Nashville as it should be. {SpTB11 20.1}   

Quote
  "Every possible means should be devised to establish schools of the Madison order in various parts of the South. . . .You have no time to lose" Does that mean you?  {PH012 2.3}
 
              A Quick Work.

     WE ARE PRONE TO OVERLOOK THE RESULTS THAT THE LORD HAS SAID WILL FOLLOW FAITHFUL WORK IN THE SOUTH. CONCERNING THE CONDUCT OF SCHOOLS OF THE MADISON ORDER WE ARE TOLD:--


                    -3-  {PH012 2.4} 
     "It would have been pleasing to God if, while the Madison school has doing its work, other such schools had been established in different parts of the Southern field. . . . Labor to encourage others to do a similar work. Then the light of truth will be carried in a simple and effective way, And a Great Work will be Accomplished for the Master in a Short Time."  {PH012 3.1} 
     "The class of education given at the Madison school is such as will be accounted a treasure of great value by those who take up missionary work in foreign fields. If many more in other schools were receiving a similar training, we as a people would be a spectacle to the world, to angels, and to men. The message would be quickly carried to every country, and souls now in darkness would be brought to the light."  {PH012 3.2} 
     THE PLAN FOLLOWED BUY THE MADISON SCHOOL, IF CARRIED ON AS IT SHOULD BE BY OTHERS, GOD SAYS WILL HASTEN THE COMING OF THE LORD. COULD WE ASK FOR ANY BETTER INDUCEMENT TO UNDERTAKE A WORK?  {PH012 3.3} 
     A TRAINING FOR FOREIGN FIELDS.

     AGAIN, THIS KIND OF WORK IN THE SOUTH IS GOD'S MEANS OF DEVELOPING A STRONG CLASS OF FOREIGN MISSIONARIES, FOR--  {PH012 3.4} 
     "The school at Madison not only educates in a knowledge of the Scriptures, but it gives a practical training that fits the student to go forth as a self-supporting missionary to the field to which he is called. . . .They have been learning to become self-supporting, and a training more important than this they could


                    -4-

not receive. Thus they have obtained a valuable education for usefulness in missionary fields. . . .  {PH012 3.5} 
     "The class of education given at the Madison school is such as will be accounted a treasure of great value by those who take up missionary work in a foreign field."  {PH012 4.1} 
     A TRAINING FOR FOREIGN FIELDS;  {PH012 4.2} 
     A TRAINING IN SELF-SUPPORT;  {PH012 4.3} 
     A TRAINING THAT WILL HASTEN THE COMING OF THE LORD;  {PH012 4.4} 
     IS IT WORTH HAVING A PART IN?  {PH012 4.5} 
     "This work is to be done now, while the angels continue to hold the four winds. There is no time to lose. . . .Shall we not hear of many volunteers?. . . .Why have you not a deeper sense of necessities of the Southern field?  {PH012 4.6} 
     THE WORK IS TO BE DONE. IT SHOULD BE DONE NOW. YOU SHOULD VOLUNTEER TO ENTER THIS FIELD. BEFORE VERY LONG THE LAST OPPORTUNITY WILL HAVE BEEN GIVEN SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTISTS TO DO THIS WORK. GOD WILL THEN TURN TO MEN IN THE BYWAYS AND HEDGES, AND WE IDLE SEVENTH DAY ADVENTISTS WILL BE PASSED BY FOREVER.  {PH012 4.7}   


The Madison School is gone, nothing special remains, most all the property is sold off, the property where corn once grew on the farm is part of the municipal park system, Southern Publishing has been closed and sold off for decades, the San became a hospital, and finally got sold to the Baptists, then to TriStar Health Systems if I remember correctly.  I worked and lived at Madison Hosp., from 1975-1978 and watched as step by step it was all chipped away.

Thanks Jim and Ed, I think you found what I'd remembered.  Where in the writings can we find the 'blue print' for Madison school?  Even if it is in all caps...  Seems you have sourced several places here?
Title: Re: Demise of SDA Boarding Schools
Post by: sdazeal on March 05, 2014, 11:00:25 PM
Ah, so that is where the Cumberland reference I got came from. Same area, same state and conference. Laurelbrook was indeed part of this. But think about this: Laurelbrook and Little Creek were based on the Madison/Cumberland blueprint, and Oklahoma Aacademy is based on Little Creek, so the legacy continues...at least for now.
Title: Re: Demise of SDA Boarding Schools
Post by: newbie on March 06, 2014, 10:14:16 PM
Ok....found it.  This is what I originally was thinking of but I'm sure these other schools are excellent too.

Cowee Mountain School was the name.  Here is the link for the reprint but the pictures are missing.

http://www.childers-shepherd.org/files/CoweeMountainSchool.htm (http://www.childers-shepherd.org/files/CoweeMountainSchool.htm)
Title: Re: Demise of SDA Boarding Schools
Post by: sdazeal on March 07, 2014, 08:03:38 PM
Ok....found it.  This is what I originally was thinking of but I'm sure these other schools are excellent too.

Cowee Mountain School was the name.  Here is the link for the reprint but the pictures are missing.

http://www.childers-shepherd.org/files/CoweeMountainSchool.htm (http://www.childers-shepherd.org/files/CoweeMountainSchool.htm)

Cool! Boy,were we off the mark! :)
Title: Re: Demise of SDA Boarding Schools
Post by: newbie on March 08, 2014, 06:28:39 PM
I just read the whole thing last night....very interesting... in a nutshell this is what happened

God had given the message in how to build these 'Hill Schools' all over the south.  Madison was one of the first and God said that it should be the model for others to follow.  God said that SDAs should have these 'hill' schools all over in vast areas of the south where land was not being used.  So, many of these schools were built on the same model as Madison.  Cowee Mountain school was an excellent school and was self supporting for many years. 

Then one day for some reason the GC based at Loma Linda had a committee that decided that all training for SDA children should take place ONLY at the Madison school.  All funding was directed to the Madison school.  Cowee continued to do it's great work and continued to be self supporting.  The GC did not like that they ignored the mandate to not train anymore so they never sent any funds to the school at Cowee.  Cowee however never needed the funding as they did very well... students were learning, happy, and reaching out to the neighboring community with health message and treatments.  The GC then started spreading rumors that Cowee was not the place to send your youth for training...   One day Cowee had 19 students that were ready for baptism and they were denied.  They sought a local SDA pastor and he came and did the baptizing.  It was problem after problem for Cowee and eventually they were pressured to close...  I believe all the 'hill' schools eventually closed including Madison.

It seems to me that the problem was about power and control and what man thought was best over what God had originally told EGW.

EGW was near the end of her life but made several statements that we should not criticize the brethren that are doing work for God.  We can all contribute in many different ways as moved by the Spirit of the Lord and that no one should be forced to do what man thinks is best.
Title: Re: Demise of SDA Boarding Schools
Post by: sdazeal on March 25, 2014, 05:15:10 PM
Excellent post, Newbie! My heart goes out to all SDA schools, but many of the current problems, mostly financial, are due to the wrong vision and wrong methodology that those who make the decisions have clung to. I have recently heard that one particular school is going broke because:
1- "we must compete with the public schools for the best teachers",
2- "we must continue to fund the programs that attract the kids, like competitive sports",
3- "we must pay the kid's way into the school because the parents can't afford it."

Am I the only one that realizes that number three is because of  numbers one and two?
The conference-funded SDA schools have openly and publicly decided that they want to compete with public schools on accreditation, grades, extracurricular activities, programs and so on. The blueprint was for our schools to support themselves with industry, and offer a spiritual experience through spiritual education.
Oklahoma Academy had higher than average ACT scores, with no accreditation and very few college degreed teachers. The teachers worked for a $600 per month stipened, went to the free clinic for health care and lived in modest homes, eating whatever they could afford or could grow. The teachers consider themselves missionaries, not professionals. Big differences.
Title: Re: Demise of SDA Boarding Schools
Post by: sdazeal on March 26, 2014, 05:43:06 AM
And please pray for me and my family, as a board member from OA has asked me to consider re-applying at the school. This would have to be a God-ordained move, even though my heart would jump at the chance.
Title: Re: Demise of SDA Boarding Schools
Post by: newbie on March 27, 2014, 11:31:03 AM
And please pray for me and my family, as a board member from OA has asked me to consider re-applying at the school. This would have to be a God-ordained move, even though my heart would jump at the chance.
God bless you as He opens doors for you