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The Christian Man and the Christian Woman => The Christian Woman => Topic started by: Richard OFfill on September 06, 2013, 03:05:53 PM

Title: Excuse me lady
Post by: Richard OFfill on September 06, 2013, 03:05:53 PM
We men don't changed when we are criticized or nagged at. A man and a woman for that matter, changes with encouragement. At least I do! :-)
Title: Re: Excuse me lady
Post by: newbie on September 07, 2013, 06:58:06 PM
We men don't changed when we are criticized or nagged at. A person man or woman change with encouragement. At least I do! :-)
so true... we need encouragement...  the face of Jesus...  the HS to convict of sin
Title: Re: Excuse me lady
Post by: Ed Sutton on September 07, 2013, 11:50:55 PM
Whenever change is actually needed, it is often a combination of knowing right from wrong in that issue + loyalty to God or loyalty to self ( and we know who inspires loyalty to selfish interests ) I did not say survival interests or interests relating to the good of the cause, or the good of God's mission and mandate.

I can be nagged to change but my grip on my idol gets tighter. 

I can be convicted to change and now the possibility of conviction creating my desire to change + attaching that conviction + my germinating sprouting desires to change + loyalty to God > exists and can grow till it is strong enough to willingly decide to both ally myself with God in the matter + take hold of God's power and through love to God and faith in God, act to do my part in dethroning the idol and obeying God's call FOR change and TO change.

That's why my wife has almost no chance to effect meaningful from the heart change if she first starts by nagging my ears, but has very real potential to rescue me if she starts and continues talking to God's ears; then when God moves her conduct a one on one Bible-SOP study when I give evidence I am in process of surrendering to God and may need to see it in God-inspired writing to boost my desires to cross over the line by deciding to surrender and grasp God's hand by faith and attempt to obey what the change called for.[/b]

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    A sullen submission to the will of the Father will develop the character of a rebel. Service is looked upon by such a one in the light of drudgery. It is not rendered cheerfully and in the love of God. It is a mere mechanical performance. If he dared, such a one would disobey. His rebellion is smothered, ready to break out at any time in bitter murmurings and complaints. Such service brings no peace or quietude to the soul.  {12MR 236.1}
Christ assumed humanity with all its humiliation and service, that He might cut man loose from Satan's chariot car as a bond slave. He knew that the service of Satan can bring only wretchedness and misery and distress in its train. The sinner is a stranger to repose and rest. The sinner says, I want my freedom. By this he would get rid of all restraint by casting aside the law of God. But it is this desire that has made the world what it is today--corrupt as in the days of Noah, and polluted as the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah.  {12MR 236.2} 

     God presents before us two classes. For the one--the wicked--He says, "There is no peace" [Isaiah 48:22]. Of the other, "Great peace have they that love thy law: and nothing shall offend them" [Psalms 119:165]. Of that law He says, "The law of the Lord is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the Lord is sure, making wise the simple. The statutes of the Lord are right, rejoicing the heart: the commandment of the Lord is pure, enlightening the eyes. The fear of the Lord is clean, enduring for ever: the judgments of the Lord are true and righteous altogether. More to be desired are they than gold, yea, than much fine gold: sweeter also than honey and the honeycomb. Moreover by them is thy servant warned: and in keeping of them there is great reward" [Psalms 19:7-11]. We should deem our service for God a pleasure, and should make it the expression of our love for Him.  {12MR 236.3}       

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     The man who attempts to keep the commandments of God from a sense of obligation merely--because he is required to do so--will never enter into the joy of obedience. He does not obey. When the requirements of God are accounted a burden because they cut across human inclination, we may know that the life is not a Christian life. True obedience is the outworking of a principle within. It springs from the love of righteousness, the love of the law of God. The essence of all righteousness is loyalty to our Redeemer. This will lead us to do right because it is right--because right doing is pleasing to God.  {COL 97.3}
 
     The great truth of the conversion of the heart by the Holy Spirit is presented in Christ's words to Nicodemus: "Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born from above, he can not see the kingdom of God. . . . That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh and whither it goeth. So is every one that is born of the Spirit." John 3:3-8, margin.  {COL 98.1}     
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Title: Re: Excuse me lady
Post by: Ed Sutton on September 08, 2013, 12:16:42 AM
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This was an issue in Sr White's home too.   

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MR No. 1202 - Diary Fragments--July to October, 1907
St. Helena, California, August 1, 1907

     I am passing through trials of mind, and my soul is distressed in me since the camp meeting in St. Helena. There is a special work to be done for the Lord's people that but few realize. The Lord is sending warnings to His people in the developments that shall come from the trying of the cases of fraudulent, guilty actions that have taken place with men in some connection with San Francisco and Oakland. This is to awaken the people to see that humanity without the law of God in the heart does not obey its principles. Man is trying [to get] his fellow man to bring in a supposed new order of things, but the heart is corrupt and utterly unreliable. God saith, "Woe unto you, lawyers!" There is not one of them obeying God's law that He came from heaven to make known, precept after precept.  {16MR 127.3} 

     I am full of sorrow for the people of God. They are having a trifling experience in true righteousness and true service to God. Not all connected with me are an honor spiritually. They are not in a position to do honor to my family. They are cheating themselves out of a true religious experience, trifling with eternal interests. They are not obtaining an experience that is of value to them in fitting their souls for the trials soon to come, and I am helpless to change the order of things. It does not seem to be in some of them to closely examine their own hearts, whether they are obtaining a fitness for the trials that are coming upon every soul, whatever his position or profession. The true religious experience they have not. I am distressed, for it is supposed that those of my household will feel an individual responsibility to keep their own souls in the love of God and be in their position a blessing to others. {16MR 128.1} 

     I have a message for those who are professedly Christians but who do not realize their daily accountability to God. It is supposed my family will be of a very different order religiously. What can I do or say? They are handling sacred things daily, but I fear for their future unless they shall seek the Lord with all their heart. I may pray in the family, I may address the church to seek the Lord, but unless they will obtain a deep experience they will not be prepared to unite with the holy family in the heavenly courts. I fear for every one of my family, and therefore fear for myself. What can I say? What can I do? The shortage of coming into spiritual union with God make me afraid, and what can I say or do in my physical weakness?  {16MR 128.2}     

This struggle began in Eden, unless every member in a family is converted ......................... the painful chilling prophecy by Jesus rings true in the household again and again...........

Matthew 10:
32  Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven.
33  But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.
34  Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
35  For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
36  And a manís foes shall be they of his own household.
37  He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.
38  And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me.
39  He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it.

Nagging verses evangelizing in the family cuts both ways, men grasp or resist some things more readily than women,  women grasp or resist some things more readily than men.   

Being spouses the temptation creeps in to talk in a way un-dared of, with strangers, or potential converts.  This is just dawning on me after 38+ yrs of marriage. 

Spousal verbal barrages instigated by Satan in both spouses to resist true home religion being built at home, weakening the marriage, the home & the Church.

Does nagging have a history of converting anyone to obey from the heart,  or is there a breaking the traces and restraints when the nagging spouse is not around, because it was not in the heart to obey, just escape nagging - keep the peace - sullen mechanics - that will fail the I-J conducted by Jesus ?

Would treating family members needing to obey God, like potential converts - work better than nagging ? 

But nagging is quicker and less work, but it's lots less long run effective too.