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Theology => The Sabbath => Topic started by: colporteur on June 17, 2008, 06:57:14 AM

Title: A Special Sabbath Promise
Post by: colporteur on June 17, 2008, 06:57:14 AM
" The demands upon God are even greater upon the Sabbath than upon other days. His people then leave their usual employment, and spend the time in meditation and worship. They ask more favors of Him on the Sabbath than on other days. They demand His special attention. They crave His choicest blessings. God does not wait  for the Sabbath to pass before He grants their requests. Heaven's work never ceases,and men should never rest from doing good." Desire of Ages p. 207
Title: Re: A Special Sabbath Promise
Post by: newbie on June 17, 2008, 08:31:14 AM
Amen Cp ,............

but we do feel that the Sabbath is special and pray way more on the Sabbath than any other day of the week. 

We are together with like believers more than any other day of the week....

The 6 days are the preparation days...   :-)
Title: Re: A Special Sabbath Promise
Post by: reaching4heaven on June 18, 2008, 06:21:34 AM
"God does not wait  for the Sabbath to pass before He grants their requests." Desire of Ages p. 207

Years ago someone told me that anything you pray for on Sabbath will be answered - a talisman type of attitude toward this quote. Unfortunately, for my son who keeps praying for a horse, this is not the way this quote is intended to be used. Fortunately, for me who understands the cost and time involved in a horse, God still answers Sabbath prayers (along with prayers given on other days) with "yes, no, and later" so a horse will not be appearing in our yard before we can properly take care of it (leaving room for the "later" answer.  :-o)

The quote is taken from a section of Desire of Ages that is saying it is acceptable to do good things on the Sabbath day; relaying how Jesus did good deeds and that God does not wait for Sabbath to be over before "working" on answering our prayers. That is indeed a blessing and a special promise as you stated.
Title: Re: A Special Sabbath Promise
Post by: newbie on June 18, 2008, 09:36:10 AM
Reaching,
On a side note, I also as a young child prayed for a horse for years and finally when I was 7 my parents gave me a puppy.  I stopped praying for a horse. 
Title: Re: A Special Sabbath Promise
Post by: reaching4heaven on June 18, 2008, 09:53:16 AM
Reaching,
On a side note, I also as a young child prayed for a horse for years and finally when I was 7 my parents gave me a puppy.  I stopped praying for a horse. 

He was praying for a dog, too. We added the puppy to the family last fall.  Recently we added one kitten. We actually found 3, he wanted to keep 1 so we prayed the one he wanted wouldn't find a home if it wouldn't get my allergic reactions going. (Thanks everyone for your prayers! I hardly ever have a problem.) There is no doubt in my mind that God intended this kitten for this boy - they're both rough & tumble, but cuddly at night time. I haven't heard a prayer for a horse in a few months - it had gotten past 1 horse to 3 horses and a horse trailer... I do hope it's over! (At least until he's much older and can take full responsibility.) It doesn't help that we live in horse country. No close neighbors have a horse so he can't learn to take care of them yet, but everywhere we drive there are horses.
Title: Re: A Special Sabbath Promise
Post by: colporteur on June 18, 2008, 01:33:47 PM
Kids can be so cute. Today we were working out in our trees/ forest. We were talking about deer and their fawns and how they are quiet so a wolf doesn't get them. My six year old son asked, "Daddy, do wolves eat people?" I answered, "not usually, they are afraid." My son continued ever so sincerely, "they just take a bite and go?"  :-D
Title: Re: A Special Sabbath Promise
Post by: reaching4heaven on June 18, 2008, 02:38:21 PM
Kids can be so cute. Today we were working out in our trees/ forest. We were talking about deer and their fawns and how they are quiet so a wolf doesn't get them. My six year old son asked, "Daddy, do wolves eat people?" I answered, "not usually, they are afraid." My son continued ever so sincerely, "they just take a bite and go?"  :-D

 :lol:
Title: Re: A Special Sabbath Promise
Post by: Ed Sutton on January 21, 2011, 08:51:38 PM
Unfortunately if they take the first bite - they stay.
Title: Re: A Special Sabbath Promise
Post by: Ed Sutton on January 21, 2011, 09:05:10 PM
S-ABBA-TH   the sign of the Father

SAB-BATH or  SA-BETH  - house of Bread   in this case Bread of the Presence, Bread of Heaven


Moving away from Sabbath >
Deuteronomy 32:
12  So the LORD alone did lead him, and there was no strange god with him.
13  He made him ride on the high places of the earth, that he might eat the increase of the fields; and he made him to suck honey out of the rock, and oil out of the flinty rock;
14  Butter of kine, and milk of sheep, with fat of lambs, and rams of the breed of Bashan, and goats, with the fat of kidneys of wheat; and thou didst drink the pure blood of the grape.
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Title: Re: A Special Sabbath Promise
Post by: Ed Sutton on January 21, 2011, 09:15:36 PM
part 2   ( 5K limit)

Not all promises are upbeat

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A sad note too true these days >

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  The camp meetings at Selma was a precious meeting to all who really hungered and thirsted after righteousness. Those whose minds were placed upon worldly interests, were not benefited; but, I fear were made worse; for their hearts were open to temptation. On the Sabbath I was pained to the soul to hear, by the side of my tent, an earnest conversation in regard to houses and lands, and the prospect of property's rising in value. I thought it must be those not of our faith, who were thus engaged in talking on worldly matters on the Sabbath day; but looking from my tent, I saw it was one of our brethren and another man who were occupied in this way. This brother should have been wholly in earnest, that the meeting might be a blessing to Selma; but alas! his heart and mind were on temporal, worldly things. While claiming to be a Sabbath-keeper, he was doing business with mind and heart and voice. Says the Scripture, "If thou turn away thy foot from the Sabbath, from doing thy pleasure on my holy day; and call the Sabbath a delight, the holy of the Lord honorable; and shalt honor him, not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking thine own words: then shalt thou delight thyself in the Lord; and I will cause thee to ride upon the high places of the earth, and feed thee with the heritage of Jacob thy father; for the mouth of the Lord hath spoken it."  {RH, June 26, 1888 par. 10}
     I hope that this brother will have a pure, sincere heart, and will be a doer of the commandments of the Lord; then he will be a light to shine forth to others. But, if his profession of belief and reverence for the Sabbath is only a form, he will be a body of darkness to the church in Selma, or wherever he may go. He has not that faith that will venture something for the sake of the truth. The truth is kept apart from his life. It does not mold and fashion his character. Unless he is converted in heart, he will not practice the truth, however much he may claim to believe it.  {RH, June 26, 1888 par. 11}
     We heard two other brethren talking of the railroads that were to be laid in different sections of the country, and commenting on the profitableness of investing in lands in those parts of the State. Here we saw that in a meeting of about ten days, all the believers in the truth could not leave worldly thoughts and speculations behind them, to engage unreservedly in the worship of God. I was led with pain to inquire how many of these poor souls had opened through their hearts a highway for the traffic of the world, and had closed the door to Jesus and the truth. I said, It is such thoughts, such heart service to the world, that keeps the blessing of God from our meetings; for the Lord will pour out his Spirit only upon those who really hunger and thirst after righteousness. If there ever was need of earnest, heart-felt prayers to God, mingled with living faith, it is in this our day of opportunities, of dangers, of trials. God will not revive his work in any church unless it is sincerely desired, and earnestly sought for.  {RH, June 26, 1888 par. 12}  
 

Isaiah 58:13  If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, from doing thy pleasure on my holy day; and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the LORD, honourable; and shalt honour him, not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking thine own words:     So non sacred carnally minded mammon serving talking that is unnecessary walks all over the Sabbath.  Speech needed during care taking the sick is not mentioned as "speaking thine own words "

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God has given men six days wherein to labor, and He requires that their own work be done in the six working days. Acts of necessity and mercy are permitted on the Sabbath, the sick and suffering are at all times to be cared for; but unnecessary labor is to be strictly avoided. "Turn away thy foot from the Sabbath, from doing thy pleasure on My holy day; and call the Sabbath a delight, the holy of the Lord, honorable; and . . . honor Him, not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure." Isaiah 58:13. Nor does the prohibition end here. "Nor speaking thine own words," says the prophet. Those who discuss business matters or lay plans on the Sabbath are regarded by God as though engaged in the actual transaction of business. To keep the Sabbath holy, we should not even allow our minds to dwell upon things of a worldly character. And the commandment includes all within our gates. The inmates of the house are to lay aside their worldly business during the sacred hours. All should unite to honor God by willing service upon His holy day.  {PP 307.3}   
Title: Re: A Special Sabbath Promise
Post by: Tammy on January 22, 2011, 04:14:38 PM
"Nor speaking your own words." -- I've thought about this over the last few years of my life and realized that most people just talk about whatever comes to their mind.  On Friday evening, it's just my husband and I, we'll talk about whatever happened at work that day, just for instance.  Is that speaking our own words?

How do you handle it when you're at a dinner table after church with other members?  Just keep quiet and let the conversation go where it will, or try to keep guiding it to something more appropriate or do you actually say, "Why don't we try and find something else to talk about while it's Sabbath." ??  Does it take years to break this life-long habit?  How about if your spouse doesn't have the same "burden"?
Title: Re: A Special Sabbath Promise
Post by: Ed Sutton on January 22, 2011, 04:57:57 PM
I hope this answers your question .     If not let me know.

(part 1)


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  When the Sabbath commences, we should place a guard upon ourselves, upon our acts and our words, lest we rob God by appropriating to our own use that time which is strictly the Lord's. We should not do ourselves, nor suffer our children to do, any manner of our own work for a livelihood, or anything which could have been done on the six working days. Friday is the day of preparation. Time can then be devoted to making the necessary preparation for the Sabbath and to thinking and conversing about it. Nothing which will in the sight of Heaven be regarded as a violation of the holy Sabbath should be left unsaid or undone, to be said or done upon the Sabbath. God requires not only that we refrain from physical labor upon the Sabbath, but that the mind be disciplined to dwell upon sacred themes. The fourth commandment is virtually transgressed by conversing upon worldly things or by engaging in light and trifling conversation. Talking upon anything or everything which may come into the mind is speaking our own words. Every deviation from right brings us into bondage and condemnation.  {2T 702.1}
      Brother P, you should discipline yourself to discern the sacredness of the Sabbath of the fourth commandment and should labor to raise the standard in your family and wherever you have, by example, lowered it among God's people. You should counteract the influence you have cast in this respect, by changing your words and actions. You have frequently failed to "remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy;" you have often forgotten, and have spoken your own words upon God's sanctified day. You have been unguarded, and have upon the Sabbath joined with the unconsecrated in conversation upon the common topics of the day, such as gains and losses, stocks, crops, and provisions. In this your example injures your influence. You should reform.  {2T 703.1}
     Those who are not fully converted to the truth frequently let their minds run freely upon worldly business, and, although they may rest from physical toil upon the Sabbath, their tongues speak out what is in their minds; hence these words concerning cattle, crops, losses, and gains. All this is Sabbath breaking. If the mind is running upon worldly matters, the tongue will reveal it, for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.  {2T 703.2}
Title: Re: A Special Sabbath Promise
Post by: Ed Sutton on January 22, 2011, 04:59:12 PM
(part-2,  5K limit)

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   The example of ministers especially should be circumspect in this respect. Upon the Sabbath they should conscientiously restrict themselves to conversation upon religious themes--to present truth, present duty, the Christian's hopes and fears, trials, conflicts, and afflictions; to overcoming at last, and the reward to be received.  {2T 703.3}
     Ministers of Jesus should stand as reprovers to those who fail to remember the Sabbath to keep it holy. They should kindly and solemnly reprove those who engage in worldly conversation upon the Sabbath and at the same time claim to be Sabbathkeepers. They should encourage devotion to God upon His holy day.  {2T 704.1}
   None should feel at liberty to spend sanctified time in an unprofitable manner. It is displeasing to God for Sabbathkeepers to sleep during much of the Sabbath. They dishonor their Creator in so doing, and, by their example, say that the six days are too precious for them to spend in resting. They must make money, although it be by robbing themselves of needed sleep, which they make up by sleeping away holy time. They then excuse themselves by saying: "The Sabbath was given for a day of rest. I will not deprive myself of rest to attend meeting, for I need rest." Such make a wrong use of the sanctified day. They should, upon that day especially, interest their families in its observance and assemble at the house of prayer with the few or with the many, as the case may be. They should devote their time and energies to spiritual exercises, that the divine influence resting upon the Sabbath may attend them through the week. Of all the days in the week, none are so favorable for devotional thoughts and feelings as the Sabbath.  {2T 704.2}
     All heaven was represented to me as beholding and watching upon the Sabbath those who acknowledge the claims of the fourth commandment and are observing the Sabbath. Angels were marking their interest in, and high regard for, this divine institution. Those who sanctified the Lord God in their hearts by a strictly devotional frame of mind, and who sought to improve the sacred hours in keeping the Sabbath to the best of their ability, and to honor God by calling the Sabbath a delight--these the angels were specially blessing with light and health, and special strength was given them. But, on the other hand, the angels were turning from those who failed to appreciate the sacredness of God's sanctified day, and were removing from them their light and their strength.[/b\ I saw them overshadowed with a cloud, desponding, and frequently sad. They felt a lack of the Spirit of God.  {2T 704.3}   
Title: Re: A Special Sabbath Promise
Post by: Ed Sutton on January 22, 2011, 05:08:20 PM
Tammy,

How does you husband feel about getting cheated on his paycheck ?  How does he feel about stealing - if someone stole from him ?

Would it help if you said something like this in a non confrontational way and tone,

"Honey..... I learned that I have been stealing from God......and I have made it a habit............and I want to stop. ..............................Jesus told it to me through a friend of His, ( Rev 19:10) and I believe Him.   ........................will you help me stop stealing from Jesus, especially when I forget and let habits take over ?  "

Then show him what you learned .  The friend is EGW.

"speaking thine own words" =  1 Bible Text &  67  SOP hits
Title: Re: A Special Sabbath Promise
Post by: Tammy on January 22, 2011, 07:53:36 PM
Thanks Ed, this was all very inspiring and thought provoking.  I think I've been convicted for some time now, but need to make more of an effort to make changes.
Title: Re: A Special Sabbath Promise
Post by: Ed Sutton on January 23, 2011, 10:06:51 PM
Ask Jesus to tutor you in trying to follow what He has said about it through His testifying, He knows more about Sabbath and what it represents than any other human.     Plus he knows your husband and can give you the attitude to make the words He gives you to say effective at heart level.

Cause you want to awaken nobility of soul and dedication to Jesus in your husband, not just toeing a mark and following a mere rule.

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   God knows that if we were left to follow our own inclinations, to go just where our will would lead us, we would fall into Satan's lines and become possessors of his attributes. Therefore the law of God confines us to the will of One who is high and noble and elevating. He desires that we shall patiently and wisely take up the duties of service. . . . A sullen submission to the will of the Father will develop the character of a rebel. The service is looked upon by such a one in the light of drudgery. It is not rendered cheerfully and in the love of God. It is a mere mechanical performance. . . . Such service brings no peace or quietude to the soul.  {TMK 120.4}
     God presents to the world two classes. For the one--the wicked-- He says, "There is no peace" (Isa. 48:22). Of the other, "Great peace have they which love thy law: and nothing shall offend them" (Ps. 119:165). . . .  {TMK 120.5}
     The Lord calls His yoke easy and His burden light. Yet that yoke will not give us a life of ease and freedom and selfish indulgence. The life of Christ was one of self-denial and self-sacrifice at every step. And His true follower, with consistent, Christlike tenderness and love, will follow in the footsteps of his Master.  {TMK 120.6}   

Love awakens love, trust awakens trust, and so on.